Topic: End Of The Exploit From Aug 25th? (Read 497 times)

Reno_000 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 09, 2003, 01:55:00 AM »

Even if MS do fix the exploits, the guys who have hacked it will have picked up a lot of experience along the way. It won't be like trying to hack the box from scratch, they will sort it out pretty fast I'm sure.

In the mean time, have a backup, and sit out the storm.

bucko · « **Reply #31 on:** August 09, 2003, 07:07:00 AM »

Meh why don't you flash your TSOP and stop crying and play XBConnect.

evil_inside · « **Reply #32 on:** August 09, 2003, 10:09:00 PM »

These forums are sounding more and more like the satellite hacking forums did a few years ago.

For anyone that was or is into satellite tv "testing", you know what I am talking about. For those who don't here is a quick summary:

Some very smart programers figured out a way to program a satellite access card to decode all channels using a script that was hidden on the card. These scripts were given to the public and posted on sites and forums exactly like this one. Everyone would download and install the scripts - enjoying the free programming until DTV would discover the exploit and send down a "death hit" in the broadcast stream that would disable all cards that were running these scripts. Everyone would lose tv programming. Days later, another script would be released. There were also private scripts that were not made public, but you basically had to know someone who could get you one and it would cost you some serious $$.

The forums and sites dedicated to this hobby were free, thriving communities(like this one) and this was how DTV would discover the scripts, and disable them. As more and more people go into the "hobby", the sites and forums were transitioning to pay only sites due to the huge amount of traffic that occured immediately after a death hit. Making it very hard for non-programmer types to get info and fix their cards so they could watch tv again.
Every few days or weeks, the public scripts would get killed and you would have to wait for days to get a new script because the sites containing the scripts would be locked to premium members only. It became a real pain in the ass.

This has been going on for years and has driven alot of people away from the "hobby", forcing them to pay for their tv programming.

As long as you connect to a subscription based service, you are vunerable to what ever is being done on the service. What makes this situation harder, is that the Xbox can be scanned by the service because of it's 2 way communication abilities. Satellite receivers are pretty much one-way(as long as you didn't hook up the phone jack in the back). As long as you don't connect to Live - you should be ok.

The idea of a new release containing code that could disable the xploits sounds very likely. I can see this happening with a very anticipated future release: Halo 2.

It's getting to the point where we may be forced to decide which is more important to us: continuing this hobby or playing live. Either that or we may be forced into having 2 separate Xboxs: one for modding and one virgin box for online play.

That's my 5 cents.

digitalman42 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 10, 2003, 12:20:00 AM »

I think there just going to keep it to Live for denying modded box's access to play modded games seems to be the way they've went so far.

vintage_guitar · « **Reply #34 on:** August 10, 2003, 12:35:00 AM »

it should stay that only live access is granted through origional disks too ensure no cheating..and too ensure no piracy. i still dont see why they would care about much else?

xboxwannabe · « **Reply #35 on:** August 10, 2003, 02:45:00 AM »

This will bring security risk to live like virus and worms and idiot hackers
M$ could cope with 5-10% with mod chips but 50+% with hacks is unacceptable just take the number of posts and reads this site got since july4th

and dont expect the hackers to fix this very quick cause lets face it with a reward like those linux guys where offering it still took 2 years and then only 1 man was responsible ,who sold his silence under duress from M$ ( i would ) after proof of concept

also i read in a post on this forum that someguys bios got updated over live as well as his dash if this was true thats a major headach for modders as well

lets face it M$ are the kings of patching

just look at windows

vintage_guitar · « **Reply #36 on:** August 10, 2003, 02:57:00 AM »

so you're saying they require an update too play newer games? even so. we will find a way too disable the prompt/whatever is required..or .. just flat out dont update..it seems as though this will be a war..they patch..we crack.vice versa.

bucko · « **Reply #37 on:** August 10, 2003, 04:16:00 AM »

dubey · « **Reply #38 on:** August 10, 2003, 05:37:00 AM »

or there will probably a way to disable this update when the time comes

XanTium · « **Reply #39 on:** August 10, 2003, 06:58:00 AM »

difference is ...
if they include checks for hacked bioses in the dash you can hack out the checks (as dash doesn't have to be signed with the MS key).
If they fix or include checks for the exploits you can't edit the dash ... dash is the only file that MUST be signed with the MS key if you want exploits to work.

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