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[LESTAT]

ok heres my dillema


iturn on my xbox with A/V cable plugged in ,,otherwise the xbox shuts down after a short period of time,, and i also have a controller plugged in.

i have never done anything to my box other than open it up.

- i have the hdd layed out nice and neat and my PC off
- i turn on the xbox and hear the hdd crunching and running
- i go watch tv for 1/2 hr
- i come back and the hdd is still spinning fast and every 2 sec it makes a crunching sound like its doing something so that the drive keeps running.
- i have done this 4 times and still the drive will not "shutdown" or go into "suspend" mode
- ok so i said screw it, i unhooked the hard drive and the xbox dvd starts spinning up...??  it realised that the xbox hdd went missing.
- so i hook it to the SECONDARY IDE cable of my PC, and i boot and get a POST error stating problem with 4th master drive press F4 to enter set up.. ok i do that,, it see's the drive fine,, and my boot order is set correctly,, nothing has changed there.
- so i reboot 4 more times all with the same error and the system will NOT boot into windows.
- by this time the xbox has shut itself off. i did NOT shut it off


anyone ever seen this?
anyone know what in the world might be happening?


as of now the xbox is running,, i have not check it plugged into the tv to verify its on the dashboard but it seemed sound like it booted fine.
ill wait another 1/2 an hour and try again but i can just about guarentee that it aint gunna work


suggestion - maybe turn on the PC and "pause" it,, hook up the xbox drive,, then let it go into windows.... maybe ??


why is the xbox shutting of ?  something added to prevent the swap trick ?

[LESTAT]

also, it boot to evox??  how can it boot to evox without evox being loaded ??
no where in the tutorial does it say anything about copying the evox files over to the xbox hdd.
or since ernie file is 7 megs is THAT evox ..

the tutorial is REALLY thurough which is GREATLY appreciated, but it doesnt go into details about what to do after that.

is there more to this than what is stated ??

something that cant be discussed here in the forums ??
if so email me for heavens sake per my email addy in my profile, im dying to get this to work.

[LESTAT]

WOOHOO i got the hdd recognised and up in windows and all is good so far  renamed the original fonts to OLD and added the bert and ernie files.

oh btw     i have an intel 875p mobo running SATA drives so that maybe whats jacking with the hdd recognition,, but i ALSO have a Silicon Image IDE RAID card i use for my extra drives and guess what i dumped the xbox drive on that card and BAM ,, she booted right up.


why am i thinking in some tutorial i read somewhere that the bert and ernie files needed to be renamed to the original file names ?? so that the xbox recognised them
also in the root of the system folder there are also font files exactly the same as the ones in the font folder,, are those going to mess it up some how ?

ok so also in the tutorial it says to dump the default.xbe into the folder too  ok so where the heck is this default.xbe file,, none of the font zips or rar's ive downloaded have had that file,, so where am i supposed to get it ?

[LESTAT]

once again i have to ask what is with the default.xbe all i have is an xboxdash.xbe
here is the file structure of my SYSTEM folder

-System
 --Xbox Book.xtf
 --Xbox.xtf
 --xboxdash.xbe
+Audio
-Fonts
 --XBox Book.old
 --Xbox.old
 --bert.xtf
 --ernie.xtf
+xboxdashdata.10027100
+xodash


as you can see in the root of the system folder is the xboxdash.xbe

NOWHERE in this tutorial does it state anything about evox or anything,

I HAVE DOWNLOADED ALL 3 FONT EXPLOITS and NONE HAVE THE DEFAULT.XBE FILE
PLEASE SOMEONE EMAIL THIS FILE!! [email protected]
or can i grab one from an evox file ive downloaded??

also what about the evox.ini file,,, what should i do with it or dont i do anything ?






i DO NOT want to unhook my xbox drive from my PC until i have this issue resolved so anyone who can help me out pretty please gimmie an answer.

[LESTAT]

ok booted up and got the  Your XBox needs serviced...

ok its pretty obvious that there is more there than just the bert and ernie... and the default.xbe file which by the way is NOT downloadable thru any of the mod sites...

so which default.xbe file it is i have no idea,, what evox version idid it come from ??

also i have a huge issue with the evox ini file which is NOT listed as being installed and yet in order to run evox you need that file,, correct ??

needs services jesus if the hdd is fried im gunna be so pissed.

oh and windows sees the drive in device manager but hdd drive will not see it!!  GGRRRR

[ragenb]

To start off, these are the files you're going to need (all are available from the usual sources):

• Bert_is_Cheating_on_Ernie_-_The_Pheonix_Project.rar
  
• ernie_and_bert_reloaded.tar
  
• bigfonts25.zip
  

From Bert_is_Cheating_on_Ernie_-_The_Pheonix_Project.rar you'll need default.xbe (place in C:, root directory), evox.ini (place in root as well) and the Skins folder.  There are tutorials earlier in this discussion on how to install the Skins folder using the Audio folder...next use the ernie.xtf and bert.xtf from ernie_and_bert_reloaded.tar, and they're placed in the fonts folder.  I had a little trouble with these two files cause my eject light to flash red even though EvoX still worked.

So what I did is FTP'ed to my XBox, and replaced ernie.xtf and bert.xtf with the two from teh bigfonts package and it solved all the problems...hope this helps a bit.

[LESTAT]

thx for the reply dude but nothing will helop now,, i backed up my hard drive,, 2 backups infact and the fucking thing booted to  "Your Xbox need serviced"   and now no matter what i do the damn hard drive tool will not see the xbox hard drive,,,  the eject blinks red and green ,,,  Windows Device Manager see's the drive but thats it,, hd tool wont see it..

so basically the stupid back ups i made are useless.


im sooooooooooooooooooooooo flippin ticked off right now..
i have an extra drive a 60 gig and a 120 gig,,, what can i do,,,   what tool is out there that will format this drive and make it work. that way i can just reimage the thing with the factory hdd image backup i made.

[ragenb]

I haven't had any experience prepping a new harddrive, although I do know that the tools exist.  Check out this tutorial:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act=ST&f=45&t=76808

[LESTAT]

so then i was right,, if it boots and says xbox needs serviced that the xbox is screwed ??  there is no way to make hd loader see the drive ?  so way to recover the hd or load a REAL game disk and make the xbox work ??

[ragenb]

Just because you're getting the error 21 doesn't mean that your XBox is screwed.  You should still be able to bring it up in Hdd_Loader and restore a backup.

[LESTAT]

actually i dont get any error number ,,, persay   just that it need serviced,, but yes i am thinking the same thing,, but i cant get the hd program to see it,, its in device mgr but the program refuses to see it

any thoughts ?

[LESTAT]

this maybe gunna get me in trouble for asking this , but i have the sdk ,,, there any tools in that that will help me out ?

[spoon486]

I got it to work. finally. I used the bert and ernie files files from http://www.xbox-tribe.com/tutorials.php?tuto=fontexploit and just followed the screenshots in the tutorial, can i rip games to the xbox hdd with the Phoenix Bios Loader V1.3? Thanks for the tutorial with screens gioxxx20

[LESTAT]

what do you think guys,,,    should i go rent a game and see if it will play or should i save my dollars?

i kinda figure it says it needs serviced because for some reason the evox dash isnt loading, and neither is the xbox  dash , what sur[rises me is that is something like this happens , as much trouble as MS went thru to protect the xbox from running copies and such (yeah right)  that is certain files were corrupt,,  then it would restore certain files from lets say a back section of the hd.

since the root of the system folder has the font files in it,, oone would think thatit could simply copy those files over and replace that and the xbox dashboard... but i guess not.



so,,,, my question is this.

since the xbox can NOT load the dashboard,,, will inserting a game cause it to bypass the dashboard and go right into the game,, allowing the hdd to become unlocked thus allowing me to swap it?
or since the dash cant be loaded is that all she wrote... the dash cant load,, the hdd wont unlock.,, there for it cant load a game ? and i cant unlock it to load it into the pc?

[LESTAT]

something ive failed to mention a while ago is also the naming of the bert and ernie/snuf  files,,  if you notice,, the default files are named EXACTLY - Xbox.xtf and XBox Book.xtf
now when told to rename the bert and snuffleupagus.xtf  files per the bert is cheating on ernie tutorial,, it says rename to Xbox Book.xtf and Xbox.xtf  
ok first anf foremost what do you knowtice about the spelling,,,    XBox Book is now Xbox Book  (the first B should be capitalised).
would this infact throw off the dashboard or is the font hack TOLD to use Xbox Book  instead of XBox Book...   things can and usually will be case sensative.  

i know thats a long shot but i have made 3 copies of my backup image and i am using Fat X plorer to open the image and add and replace the files as per this tutorial  Fat Xplorer allows adding of Folders to so you can add the SKIN folder that is included in many of the font files we may download. and i have to assume that the skin folder IS NEEDED in order to make evox run properly.
IS THIS CORRECT?

i am going to try and run linux from a cd most notiable would be the Knopix version of linux from CD, and i will see if i can see the hard drive then.

i have not been able to get a REAL xbox game yet as i dont have the money to rent one or to go buy a XBOX magazine with the demo cd in it.

IS THERE A VERSION OF LINUX THAT WILL AUTO BOOT AND RUN FROM THE CD ON THE XBOX???
and what should i burn it to ? DVD-R or cdr/w ?

im down to a very critical mass here, meaning im gunna explode if i dont get this sucker running..
since the xbox cant load properly the hard drive is NOT unlocking thus hd driver or Fat Xplorer can NOT see the drive.

im posting alot of things and alot of questions,,, mainly cuz im wondering if ANYONE has fudged their hard drive like this (when turning on the xbox the XBOX screen comes on then flashes and goes right to a screen that says "Your XBOX Needs Serviced" in about 5 languages)  and what EXACTLY they did to make it work again.

i have tried swapping many mnay times and the drive will NOT be seen by any program in windows,,,  device manager see's it and all but thats it,, nothing else.

so pretty please,, anyone have a pretty good idea of what i can do to remedy this ?