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[LinksAwakening]

QUOTE (woo @ Jul 4 2003, 04:54 AM)

then it's upto the moderators here and forum regulars to give no charity and make sure the scene and the rules and regulations here are respected. I still think we can take heart at the way the Dreamcast scene came out relatively unscathed and indeed has flourished.  I guess there is a difference though in that with DC you only needed to burn the game, but for XBOX, these forums provide a lot of background information to all levels of users.  Time will tell, but I don't see it being a big drama just yet.

Although the Dreamcast scene is still in motion, the game developers have long since died out.

I really don't expect the homebrew Xbox Scene to die out too much, but keep in mind that people here still like to play Xbox games... and I would hate to see game developers stop developing Xbox games because of this exploit...

[shaklee3]

Using the phrase "M$" gives you absolutely no credibility and makes you look like a moron. I hope you die.

[tem]

QUOTE (shaklee3 @ Jul 4 2003, 05:59 AM)

Using the phrase "M$" gives you absolutely no credibility and makes you look like a moron. I hope you die.

lmao

[Novahux]

You don't comprehend to well, I only care about my homebrew, I don't give a shit about M$'s quarterly profits I don't have enuff spare time to waste on pirating games. I'm only concerned that the next homebrew game I release will actually work for everybody.

everyone I know, won't install a modchip in their friends or family members xbox, because they will be blamed for any unrelated hardware, software issue for the life of the xbox. So the % of xbox owners with mod chips will stay low and under the M$ radar. (not worth their $$$ addressing the problem to aggressively).

Free-X , Project neo type, short sightedness is going to make it worth M$ trouble to fuck with our dashboards and we could even see virus like seek and destroy code attached to new game XBE's.

I feel that we have a good thing here, and we will lose it, due to the Pirates and Xbox-linux dickwads, when their only apparent goal is to prove to M$ they could do it. and to finaly get a returned email from them.

[Mage]

QUOTE (shaklee3 @ Jul 3 2003, 09:59 PM)

Using the phrase "M$" gives you absolutely no credibility and makes you look like a moron. I hope you die.

Hey, before you comment why don't you write out M-icrosoft (without the dash) once on this board and hit preview and see what happens?

M-icrosoft is auto-replaced with M$.

[Evolution D]

QUOTE (Mage @ Jul 4 2003, 06:03 AM)

Hey, before you comment why don't you write out M-icrosoft (without the dash) once on this board and hit preview and see what happens? M-icrosoft is auto-replaced with M$.

 

[jsm]

Sorry off topic, but i'm out to the gc scene, I was just reading there, you know how they have iso's already but no modchip yet, and you know what ? They already have an opensdk, it's a shame that after all this time, there is still no openxdk. I mean the gamecube can't even play backups yet and they have an opensdk already... I know what is wrong with this scene, there are too many ms haters. I bet no one in the ps2 scene ever says sony sucks or in the gc scene nintendo sucks. It's just sad the way this scene started, it was and will always be till it dies inhibited by haters. It will kill it. I will start spending more time over there now, good luck with all the n00bs that will come here cause their friend told them they could play backups without modchip. Good luck.

[woo]

and maybe then you'd see native and not ported emulators.  *not that I'm not ungrateful for what we have already, but...*

Back on topic.  I just think we need to take a deep breath here.  What's done is done and nobody really knows the outcome of this.  Let's just kick back and treat the ignorant with the same lack of respect we always have  

[LinksAwakening]

The way I see it there is only one aspect of the exploit that is of any use right now, and that would be the ability to run backups on LIVE.

However, this feature itself will soon be expelled, as all M$ would have to do is make an updated dashboard (without the security exploit), and not allow users on Xbox LIVE without the updated Dashboard. A quick fix that M$ can do within a few days...

Granted, this won't stop the exploit altogether, but will bring it down to it's knees and truly make it look totally worthless compared to a modchip (as if it didn't already)...

[Evolution D]

And plus, once games on on eth ehardrive and update cant stop someone from playing them. They will still be on their hardrive.

[LinksAwakening]

QUOTE (HumanClay @ Jul 4 2003, 05:53 AM)

QUOTE Granted, this won't stop the exploit altogether, but will bring it down to it's knees and truly make it look totally worthless compared to a modchip (as if it didn't already)... lol, its cheaper than an x2 and does the same thing. How is it look totally worthless compared to a chip

(These are all assuming you aren't using it to flash the TSOP) Can you install an bigger HDD and run games from it? Can you use IGR? Can you have it boot to Evoxdash.xbe?

I didn't think so...

Also, how is buying a Mega X Key and 007: AUF cheaper than a Cheapmod?

QUOTE

If they come out with a update.. just dont go on live And plus, once games on on eth ehardrive and update cant stop someone from playing them. They will still be on their hardrive.

Ok... but you seem to be forgetting that the only real point of this exploit at this point is to play backedup games on LIVE.

I suppose you could just try to live in the shadows with your hacked Xbox, but I don't see any point in that...

[bb07]

[feflicker]

Well, it wasn't an end, but it did bring in a higher percentage of technology illiterate noobs. I have a feeling this is going to get out of hand in a hurry  


Pre 7-4-2003 Closed Post:
"My chip came today! I just got my green flashing light, now where do I download Halo?"

Post 7-4-2003 Closed Post:
"I just downloaded my 007_Dash_Mod.rar file, now where do I download Halo2?"

 

[LinksAwakening]

QUOTE (bb07 @ Jul 4 2003, 06:17 AM)

i can see it now Follow M$ 10 Easy Steps the scene gets bigger(because of no-chip hack) M$ see this,and worrys about priacy M$ releaseing games that flash your shit or erases your F partion more people run backups on live M$ see this,and raises price for live and cheater fuckup live A new hack come out More people come to the scene M$ gets tried of priacy M$ blames modchips M$fuckups scene M$fuckups xbox-scene.com M$ fucks up fun Ps....buy a modchip and don't fuck with Live Amen

I am 97% sure that I agree with you (not 100%, because I didn't understand some parts)...

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and cheater fuckup live

Anyway, I agree with this. The Scene was doing great before this pointless exploit, and I hope people will realize that this doesn't really replace a modchip, and I hope they will buy a modchip and actually become a part of the scene.

I don't want to see M$ have to take drastic measures to fix this exploit. I just think we should do our best to try and preserve the Scene the way it is now (well... like 4 hours ago...).

My guess is that the exploit will bring in n00bs looking to try it out, who will realize it is a much better decision to just buy an actual modchip, and then hopefully the scene will grow...

[Xbox-Savage]

QUOTE (HumanClay @ Jul 4 2003, 03:29 AM)

you can run backups on Live so in a way its better than a chip!

like namdekan said: If you use this hack in anyway that make people able to cheat on XBL I hope you die a painful and slow death.