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LinksAwakening

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« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2003, 10:34:00 PM »

You can run backups on LIVE until M$ releases a fix...

Honestly, yes... it can do most of what a modchip can do, but who wants to use this hack and live in fear of M$ releasing a complete fix to the exploit and you being back at square 1?

How could this happen with a modchip?

If anything, I would just recommend people use this to flash their TSOP, and then forget all about the dashboard flaw, and just enjoy the "modchip" in the TSOP... without worry...

Only downside to this... No backups on LIVE... which will only last a few days anyway...
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« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2003, 10:35:00 PM »

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I hope you realize it can. Yuo somehow refuse to believe that it can do what a modchip can lol its getting out of hand. It CAN replace a modchip dude. It launches the same apps, u can upgrade hddd and run games and everything man. And more, you can run backups on Live so in a way its better than a chip!


lol,no dry.gif
when M$ gets there shit together(fixing flaws and patching Live)
than everyone will run back to there modchips
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« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2003, 10:47:00 PM »

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Remember when we thought "pogo-pins" was the end of X-S as we know it?

but this one going to hit the scene
(it might have death blow this time)
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« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2003, 10:51:00 PM »

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but this one going to hit the scene
(it might have death blow this time)


Like a finishing move from MK3!  blink.gif
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« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2003, 10:55:00 PM »

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Like a finishing move from MK3!


pogo pin = Quan Chi finisher in Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance(gay ass fininsher laugh.gif )
new dashboard = cyrax finsher in MK3(Blows up the world laugh.gif )
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« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2003, 11:34:00 PM »

QUOTE (Novahux @ Jul 4 2003, 04:36 AM)
Good to see some people with some common sense.
Hardly anyone gave a shit about Project neo, it was even officially endorsed by XBS.

http://forums.xbox-s...ndpost&p=260149

No one cared about project NEO because only an IDIOT would try to bruteforce 2048 bit RSA.

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« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2003, 11:36:00 PM »

QUOTE (Calathia @ Jul 4 2003, 06:48 AM)
QUOTE (Asmodeus @ Jul 4 2003, 05:04 AM)
They still have not made one cent in the console business (along with Sony), only Nintendo makes money in the console business.

Can you please clarify this for me? I thought Sony is the only one profiting....?

P.S. 'Been nintendo fan since 1985  tongue.gif


..Respect..

Sony began profiting off the PS2 after having sold 20 million units. They're up to 50 now I think - they're doing well.

Nintendo is extremely profitable, and has been since day one. It's the only non-hacked platform. (And don't get started on the isos ... they're not playable).

Xbox has never earned M$ a cent, and never will. It's also the most pirated platform of the three. Developers better stay away from both the Xbox and Xbox 2 ..
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« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2003, 11:41:00 PM »

Heres the reason why i think this is a bad idea. When people see this who arent already into xbox modding and stuff, they might think that its an easy way to play free games. The problem with that is when they come into the forums and start 20 different threads asking for help on this new method, then that becomes an annoying problem. Some can say that everyone was a noob at one time. well, when i was starting to be interested in xbox, i  read the tutorials here and read the forums for about 2 months before signing up so i would learn but not annoy others with questions that i could find the answers to myself. so as long as the new "dashboard exploit" part of the forum doesnt become full of dumb questions and instead has important threads on this new exploit, then thats fine. but as of now, theres already 20 some threads and its not even a day old. most are asking for help on it.
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« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2003, 11:51:00 PM »

It is sad how many people look at this as a bad thing. "End of the scene this", "end of homebrew that".

I've been around all of this for long enough to know that this kind of stuff wont destroy the "scene". What we have right now is a limited number of people doing something that a few hypocritical people dont like. Its ok to mod your xbox using a hardware solution, but a software solution is the root of all that is evil. I am sorry, but this is so incredibly stupid.

Some people think that this will cause a huge influx of 13-year old pirate kids who got an xbox for Christmas. Of course it will. But this is no different from any other console available right now. I'll admit, that yes, when I was younger, I pirated software. But not many 14-15 year olds have jobs to pay 50-60 bucks a game. I'd like to say times have changed since then, but they haven't. Just join a console piracy channel on IRC somewhere... you'll find that a good percentage of the people there are young.... Somehow they have modified consoles, someone had to do it for them. I have modded enough systems to know that the xbox is BY FAR the easiest console mod I have ever done... anyone with a steady hand can do it.

Now, that whole last paragraph was a bunch of nothing, but there is a point coming. The Playstation2 piracy scene (in my opinion anyway), is much greater than the xbox piracy scene. Raise your hand if you've ever done a 22-wire PS2 mod. These kids have modded consoles, these same kids could get a modded xbox console. Somehow this hasn't destroyed the "scene", and yet all of you people are catastrophizing something that isn't already available.

Sure, it could cause some problems with Live, but how many people in the homebrew scene spend any time on Live. Personally, I dont even do homebrew. I bought an xbox, and then I bought a modchip. I could pirate stuff all day long if I wanted, but I dont. My xbox is my "media box". I play around with it, I even play a few SNES roms from time to time. But I still havent found any good reason for me to spend that much money for the Live kit, plus the monthly fee, plus my ISP bill. Its a waste of money.

Mandatory updates, thats just a waste of my time talking about this. Sure you could force the user to update their dashboard or whatever. How many people have modded xboxes and still use the MS dash. You can modify BIOSes to run any dashboard, with any name (come on, random letters work here), and run it from three different places. People complaining about a possible mandatory update havent quite thought that through yet.

Anyway, sitting around crying about something that wont happen is a waste of everyones time. Bitch and moan all you want, but it wont happen. The whole downside here is this: all "scenes" have some piracy involved. There is always a group of people (big or small) that just plain don't want to pay for games. It is a simple fact of life. The PSX had it, the PS2 has it, and you better believe the xbox has it... whether anyone likes it or not.

This "exploit" doesnt change a thing. Anyway, flame away.
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« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2003, 01:08:00 AM »

smile.gif What Im trying to say is that a console only gamer is not likely to go dig around on how to hack the box + you cant use it on LIVE which is the hip thing now days. Another thing is that Xbox has a lot of old age gamers,that will spend 50$ in a second , just to get away from the RLwife or whatever.

Did I made my point? Sorry I am a foreigner tongue.gif All I wanted to say is that this can be only a good thing for Xbox/M$.No wonder why Free-x didnt get any responce from MS. Yeah,I'll let your run your shit over my shit and I have to pay you too.................dreams.

edit:btw I buy the games that I like.Over 40 PC and about 15 Xbox games,I'll make a picture if you need proof.
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« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2003, 02:08:00 AM »

if the topic is asking whether creating this thread was a bad idea my answer is YES.
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« Reply #56 on: July 04, 2003, 02:13:00 AM »

QUOTE (LinksAwakening @ Jul 4 2003, 03:36 AM)
Here are the bad points:
-M$ will inevitably incorporate security fixes in Xbox LIVE services to correct this exploit, which could also bring trouble to actual modchip users aswell.

-M$ may incorporate automatic, mandatory dashboard updates in newer games that will fix the dashboard flaw, which could (although unlikely with evoxdash.xbe bios) cause problems for actual modchip users as well.

Don't worry it'll be patched in our favor  wink.gif
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LinksAwakening

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« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2003, 02:39:00 PM »

QUOTE (Johnrx86 @ Jul 4 2003, 10:13 AM)
QUOTE (LinksAwakening @ Jul 4 2003, 03:36 AM)
Here are the bad points:
-M$ will inevitably incorporate security fixes in Xbox LIVE services to correct this exploit, which could also bring trouble to actual modchip users aswell.

-M$ may incorporate automatic, mandatory dashboard updates in newer games that will fix the dashboard flaw, which could (although unlikely with evoxdash.xbe bios) cause problems for actual modchip users as well.

Don't worry it'll be patched in our favor  wink.gif

What is that supposed to mean?

Why would M$ patch it in your favor?
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