Topic: Defragging the Xbox the hard drive. (Read 2946 times)

SirLuck · « **Reply #360 on:** November 20, 2002, 09:32:00 PM »

Gakt, thanks for your informative posting. Does everyone know if it IS partition F that files are cached to?

Nailed · « **Reply #361 on:** November 20, 2002, 11:01:00 PM »

Actually we know for a fact it isn't drive F the files are cached to. Data files are cached to X, Y, & Z and perhaps E.

Nailed · « **Reply #362 on:** November 20, 2002, 11:23:00 PM »

mike,
It makes sense your games would run fast if you've never deleted any... your drive would be nearly 100% defragmented. But if you start deleting and adding repeatly (to any size drive) fragmentation begins to occur, at least in all the file systems I can think of right now.

mikejf · « **Reply #363 on:** November 21, 2002, 07:56:00 AM »

QUOTE (Nailed @ Nov 21 2002, 02:23 AM)

mike,
It makes sense your games would run fast if you've never deleted any... your drive would be nearly 100% defragmented. But if you start deleting and adding repeatly (to any size drive) fragmentation begins to occur, at least in all the file systems I can think of right now.

True, I haven't deleted any big xbox games yet.
Just some smaller emulation games.
If the Bik files are fragmented, the video may get choppy.
The game code should load fine though, maybe a bit slower, but not hang.

Copying > 100 Gigs over the net to a PC and back would take forever....

dripgoss · « **Reply #364 on:** November 21, 2002, 08:37:00 AM »

QUOTE

I understood that, I was just trying to make your point more clear.

Oh yeah, I know. I was aiming at Nailed.

Since we're talking about partitions, now I'm starting to wonder if some partitions don't resize themselves depending on what data's in them. When I boxplorer or read the partition values from the evox dash, I can copy files all day long to my C: drive and it'll report the size. Now, I don't know if it's just reporting how much data is in C:, or if it's actually reporting mow big the partition is... My guess is the partitions are fixed, but then again, how does the Xbox know how much game save and cache data your games are going to want to put on E or X/Y/Z respectively?

Nailed · « **Reply #365 on:** November 21, 2002, 11:36:00 AM »

The partitions are fixed in size... you can check the free space from Evo-X. I believe the games themselves handle cache management (turn off your xbox while playing a game and look in X, Y, or Z.... you'll see cached game files... start up another game and do the same thing and you'll see the previous game's cached files are gone) Likewise, your chances of running out of save game space on E is pretty unlikely unless you fill that drive with games and/or 'soundtracks'.

As for 'aiming' at me, dripgoss... I can't help it if you have a problem with the clarity of your writing.

Nailed · « **Reply #366 on:** November 21, 2002, 11:39:00 AM »

Ya.. I imagine doing that sort of copy would be a night's chore.

Defrags are dangerous if coded incorrectly though because they're essential rearranging and removing file pointers! Personally, I wouldn't risk running a homemade defrag app.

chefelf · « **Reply #367 on:** October 30, 2003, 04:37:00 AM »

Simply delete the folder containing the game. That's it.

As for fragmentation I know that some people are working on defrag issues. I'm sure they'll be a working defragmenter soon. Mayber there already is, I'm not sure. Until my hard drive gives me problems I'm not too worried about it.

wmfms · « **Reply #368 on:** November 21, 2002, 12:28:00 PM »

Hey guys...

I can't remember if I fully zero'd the drive at the beginning... But I've decided the best thing to do is backup everything onto PC (about 30gbs worth of stuff) and just re-format the whole thing. I did copy and delete about 3gbs of data, so your theory makes sense.

socrates · « **Reply #369 on:** November 21, 2002, 12:33:00 PM »

God help me if it does start to show signs of wear and tear after removing games cause i add and remove atleast 2 games a day off my original hard drive...................yet i have never had any slow down, EXCEPT when the hard drive is near full like 700 meg left ,then it starts to slow down ,so i delete all the games off the hard drive and rotate to a new batch to keep it fresh and livley........like a warm spring air in the rockies on a june morning with your wife and a cup of nes cafe...............................help me help you.

frozen lake · « **Reply #370 on:** October 30, 2003, 07:26:00 AM »

on the matter defragment i think it would be nice to be able to do this as an option.

However if you backed a game up on HD and say you had a 120 gb one why need to remove it anyway?

Hong Kong Phooey · « **Reply #371 on:** October 30, 2003, 08:54:00 AM »

QUOTE (dewmonger @ Oct 30 2003, 06:44 PM)

Just use boxplorer to delete the directory. Since this is not a Windows based system, you don't need to worry about doing an Uninstall program or anything like that.

I agree, boXplorer works fine for me.

inwoosac · « **Reply #372 on:** November 21, 2002, 09:27:00 PM »

if you NEED to defragment... just copy over the files to your computer... run a command on evox to format your f drive.. and start copying back

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Katonta · « **Reply #373 on:** November 22, 2002, 10:13:00 PM »

a defrag util would be nice but Nailed is right...

EncryptedBytes · « **Reply #374 on:** November 25, 2003, 02:26:00 PM »

What c-2 is saying is that there is no defrager for the Xbox yet and it may be a while before you see one. If you suspect that your files are fragmented copy everything off your Xbox, format the drive(s), then copy everything back.

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