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[Mr Deez]

QUOTE (AlienTiger @ Jan 28 2004, 09:45 AM)

why not take out the hd in the xbox and place it inside your cpu as another HD and defrag it that way

As previously stated, th file allocation system is FatX, not NTFS or Fat32.

[thewickedjester]

if there is a disk defragmenter that will work with linux, it should, in theory, work with the xbox. but im not exactly sure.

[Jsmith]

Hey,
I'm just wondering.  If I stream music to my Xbox using Relax and Xbox Media Player, do I risk fragmenting my hard drive?  
Like, how does it work, does it continuosly cache data into a temporary folder which then gets deleted after it's read and played back?
If so, I would think there would be some risk of serious fragmentation over time.  So whats the deal?  Is this at all a concern, or no?
Thanks!

[sncboom2k]

[Jsmith]

Sweet.  And for those that didn't know...Pope-X wrote the software (or at least had some major involvement...don't know if there were many others involved), so he would know.
Looks like I'll be doing some streaming tonight.

[noobiex2]

[blackout_19]

because of the file system (fatx) the problem of fragmentation is pretty small. That is why no one has been in a rush to release any software.

[mickey123]

You might not see it.

[noobiex2]

[AdmStng]

has anyone with big drives that constantly install and unistall, or just had for long time experience any slower performance?

[AdmStng]

..and i thought it was refered to as "xbfs"

[LESTAT]

i have to agree on the need for a defragger,,

my 120 gig is noisy as a family of squirrels.. and it dont need to be that way,, its from heavy fragmentation from dumping files on it then deleteing them.
countless gigs of them

and to the chap who said it does it on its own,.,  i dont think so,, but i can also see that it is doing it,, i can stop gaming or watching movies and a bit later come back and my xbox hard drive is , about ever 1 second making a crunching noise like its working. At first i thought someone was in it thru ftp,, like they had bounced thru my router and into my xbox, but that wasnt the case.

the xbox does something after a while when nothing is going on, whether its defrag or not, i dont know.

and as for those who think FatX dont need defragged.
well, honestly i cant seem to fathom your mentalllity in thinking that.
countless megs and gigs of data written and erased and moved around here and there all over the hard drive.
after a while all those chunks become little pieces of empty space here and there, just like any other hard drive in the world and it needs to be defragged.

i welcome the day when there is a defragonizerschnitzlheimer tool for the xbox.

p.s.
that is a word,,,  look around you'll find it. lol

[LESTAT]

the xbox dash files are the least of your worries,, its the e x y z partitions and now F and G

xyz are just cache partitions so no need to defrag but E is game saves and music and game cache and all the junk like download content from Live,, and xbox music mixer. and all the music a person might dump there for use with that program. and other stuff of your personal use.

the C partition is nothing, and the files are so small that fragmentation is not likely. possible surely, but most unlikely.
the font and sound files in the C partition would be some of the first to be fragmented, although, if you have never touched them, then they would never have been moved, thus not fragmented. but with evox and other dashes and font and audio exploits, the C drive is totally jumbled up and most assuredly a total mess. thats why when its booting it can be rather loud yet game loading is mostly not heard. or extremely quiet. although i do have plenty of games that load quite loudly,, but again, the cache partitions and the cache partition of your C drive are most definatley severely fragmented.

not to mention that when you delete stuff, in the ms dash at least, its not even deleted , its only marked as deleted within the FAT table. thats why you can delete a huge amount of ripped music and its instantly "deleted" its not deleted at all, just marked deleted.


overall it sucks balls but the best way to do this is to back up your important stuff and redo the entire hard drive from scratch. redo that partitions and format them
hooking it to your pc and zeroing the hard drive with a hard drive partitioning tool,
hhmmm, that brings up a thought, are there any partitioning tools or disk doctor tools that could read fat x ?
and possibly defrag it while its hooked to your pc ? i dont think O&O Reads fat x does it ?

[MorfiusX]

Fragmentation on the xb hard drive won't slow it down. The hard drive is pretty slow to begin with.

[mrRobinson]

Well you don't need PC type defrag for the xbox.  But anyway I think avalaunch team is working on something for it so that's probably where you'll see it first but nothing is out right now.