That appears to be the case SpikeMage, but now I wonder if I get a new XBox how will I mod it via the exploit? If I go to the dash, it'll try to log onto XBL. So I guess if I'm starting over start with Mech Assault in the DVD drive and and run the Evox app and install the appropriate files. Then hopefully when I place the music CD in when I reboot, I'll automatically go into the Music manager instead of the dashboard and I won't log onto XBL, or else I'm right back to where I started. Should be interesting to see how all this works out. OR I could just get a modchip........we'll see what happens....