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[barracuda]

I just ran into this too...won't read any cheap dvd-r's.  Will read cd-r's and (what I think is) Ritek dvd-r.  Otherwise you get slow BIOS(takes forever for Xecuter2 to come up under the logo) then dash with "cannot recognize disc error" [I get this with Xtreme 4x dvd-r] OR Xecuter2 never shows...waited ~2min. for it [get this with any Princo dvd-r].

(Addendum)
Almost forgot, this will always boot the disc I think is a Ritek but it crashes sometimes...the good ol' "There is something wrong the disc you are using...it may be dirty or scratched".  Memorex 24x cd-r's always boot and run flawlessly.

Bought the box new yesterday (12/14/03) in Delaware, USA.
Manufacture plant code is 05.  (Piss me off, got a Sammy in a box with 05 two weeks ago.)




Here's the vitals since no one posted yet.

New Philips DVD-Rom Drive:
Model #: VAD6035/21
Customer Part #: X00624-005
Factory Code: 8VU
Mfg. Date: W334 - August - 2003


If you're looking at the laser from the front of the XBox, there are 2 pots on the PCB behind the lens.  (gonna try to ascii it here):

            ___      ___
           | P1|     | P2|
----------------------------------
|                                         |
|               LENS                  |
|                                         |
----------------------------------
        Front of XBox

Measurements:
P1 = 551 Ohms
P2 = 988 Ohms


If I knew which pot to try, I'd go for it...most likely we can deduce which one it is if someone out there can give readings from the old Philips pots.


LOL, ascii never works on message boards...but you should get the idea.

This post has been edited by barracuda: Dec 15 2003, 11:36 PM

[hedstrosity]

someone needs to malke this a sticky or bring it out in the open more.
the philips  WILL NOT play
ritek g03's ---- princos 1x ---- optodisc 1x discs ---- princo dvdrw's --- or some other generic media i tried...
those are all - dvd'rs. i tried one dvd+ to test (memorex) and it wouldnt take either...
read cdrw's though....
i wrote all the info down from a previous samsung and the three philips i got... i dont know what the number mean (serial id etc...) but all the phillips were the same while the samsung varied greatly in numbers (5 days in manufacturing difference)....
i hope this isnt the new protection, but the word needs to get out cause this would be one hell of a protection, and people are gonna be getting screwed who get them...
peace

[Rohaq]

QUOTE (barracuda @ Dec 16 2003, 01:21 AM)

If I knew which pot to try, I'd go for it...most likely we can deduce which one it is if someone out there can give readings from the old Philips pots.

Can't be sure, but I think my original reading for my Philips were around 600 Ohms, so it's probably P1, but no guarantees here.

[barracuda]

Yeah, this blows  
Looks like Bill Gate$ is the grinch this year.


But this should be front page news here.  
Big, big news and all we see is Fake X2's and the good ol' propaganda about another weak Xecutor revision  

I'm gonna report this to an op to try and get it in the news.
Looks like we'll see a ton of people in the stores digging for 06 XBox's.  

[brahm2]

For reference.. I have a 1.0 Xbox and a first generation Philly drive.

I apologize for the shitty pics, but they are really old. IF you guys need better pics, I will take apart the box and snap some more but hopefully these will be good for now, just to get an idea of the shape of the drive or whatever.



Reads CD-RW and even some CD-R like a charm. Not sure about DVD media.

Oh yeah, i'll give this a temp pin as well.

If any of you guys have a new philly dirve, post pics so people can see the difference. Lets keep this thread informative and productive

[Providence]

i'm not sure if its just my philips dvd drive..

but it'll read any dvd-r aslong as its a maxmax..

so if u have a dvd writer... try burn some xbox games on maxmax cd and tell me whether the philips can play it.

[smokeingit]

i forgot to reply to this hedstrosity =( you know how its been busy and all. i can release a tut on how to fix this. but along with everything... i dont like to play with the OHM to much because the idea of burning out a laser scares me... since it would be over worked... as long as people can use CD-RW, mod chips can still come with that cromwell bios cause you can still flash em... i cant wait till MS decides to make the drives only read xbox games and not even CD-RW's.

[DynaMight]

Does the new Phillips have the same CD-Tray as the old Phillips? e.g. making it easier to spot.

I modded a friends 2month old Xbox on the weekend, He had a Phillips drive and it worked fine on my CDRW and Bulkpaq DVD-R. Must had been an older type.

[barracuda]

I'm pretty sure the trays are exactly the same as the old Phillips but I can't check since I have it uninstalled right now.  I know the casing is pretty much identical right down to the bump on bottom.

I talked the guy who the Xbox was for into just getting a different drive that I had.

[MyUtopia]

QUOTE

Yep, I hit one a fortnight ago. Newer Philips drive (xx31 model, not xx11 or xx21). Cured as follows:- Off with the lid of the DVD drive Spin machine round, power & AV ports facing you See the pots on the laser sled? Good Measure left-hand pot (I measured between top-left point and the screw itself) YOU NEED TO DO THIS IN CASE YOU NEED TO ADJUST IT BACK AGAIN!!! I initially read 1.064K, when adjusted to 0.749K it read both Ritek and Princo DVD-Rs For reference (in case you messed with it), the right-hand pot read 1.032K When it comes to pot tweaking I don't trust me, either! But in this case it had to be done. This post has been edited by Exobex on Dec 3 2003, 06:56 PM -------------------- eXOBeX @ P/Systems Get raincoat 0.501 here! Flash not writable? Unknown device, manf=0x09, dev=0x00? Click here for the solution!

[Chizm]

QUOTE (MyUtopia @ Dec 17 2003, 04:48 AM)

Credit goes to eXOBeX... QUOTE Yep, I hit one a fortnight ago. Newer Philips drive (xx31 model, not xx11 or xx21). Cured as follows:- Off with the lid of the DVD drive Spin machine round, power & AV ports facing you See the pots on the laser sled? Good Measure left-hand pot (I measured between top-left point and the screw itself) YOU NEED TO DO THIS IN CASE YOU NEED TO ADJUST IT BACK AGAIN!!! I initially read 1.064K, when adjusted to 0.749K it read both Ritek and Princo DVD-Rs For reference (in case you messed with it), the right-hand pot read 1.032K When it comes to pot tweaking I don't trust me, either! But in this case it had to be done. This post has been edited by Exobex on Dec 3 2003, 06:56 PM -------------------- eXOBeX @ P/Systems Get raincoat 0.501 here! Flash not writable? Unknown device, manf=0x09, dev=0x00? Click here for the solution!

Is there a tutorial to do this? Or some type of picture so I know what I'm suppost to be doing? I had a friend who lives a bit a way mod my xbox for me, so I'm lost as to what to do. Thanks!!!!

[Mr Ed]

Well that is a tutorial.  Not sure what more you want.

He assumes you already have the DVD drive out of the XBOX.  If you don't know how to do that you can find other tutorials about disassembling the XBOX and you could probably just follow one of the older pot tweaking tutorials until you get to the steps that start with MyUtopia's post.

But you can see you need a digital multi-meter for this (to read the resistances).  Do you have one of those?

[Rohaq]

QUOTE (Chizm @ Dec 19 2003, 11:11 PM)

As to the multimeter, no, I don't have one. Know where I could get one for a reasonable price?

I got a digital one at a computer fair for a few quid (that'll be British pounds to you . If you're in the US, your local Radio Shack should sell them. I managed to do it without a multimeter though, and you can, as long as you're very very careful and test after every adjustment. An adjustment can be a single degree, too, and what's more, that single degree can make all the difference

[Providence]

But you can be the first to try it... and tell me how it goes

[Mr Ed]

QUOTE (Rohaq @ Dec 19 2003, 03:56 PM)

QUOTE (Chizm @ Dec 19 2003, 11:11 PM) As to the multimeter, no, I don't have one. Know where I could get one for a reasonable price? I got a digital one at a computer fair for a few quid (that'll be British pounds to you . If you're in the US, your local Radio Shack should sell them. I managed to do it without a multimeter though, and you can, as long as you're very very careful and test after every adjustment. An adjustment can be a single degree, too, and what's more, that single degree can make all the difference

I got mine so long ago I can't even remember where I got it.  It was mail order.  I started at Radio Shack, but they wanted $100US for the features in the Multi-meter I got for around $30 via mail order.  I just wanted it to be able to handle over 15amps.  The one I got handles 20amps.  Haven't shopped for one in a while, but I'd be leery of Radio Shack's prices because of that.