Well, I have used lynx sometimes, in my care-free youthfull days, but I prefer the beautiful unparsed HTML of telnetting. I'm a lot younger than you, fossil, but I still have my trusty 386 laptop with Small Linux (aka Ghetto Linux) installed on it. Right now, against my pleas, I am using a winBlows xp box, and I HATE THAT DAMN WINDOWS TELNETTING PROGRAM! Just a sec . . . telnet xbox-scene.com 80 . . . Connecting, disconnected, root, incorrect password, escape character, punch people. I HATE THAT JANITOR, "GLENN"!