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TrUnX

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Things You Must Know About The Xbox:
« on: January 27, 2004, 04:03:00 PM »
QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 25 2003, 01:27 AM)
  • Xbox can NOT run Windows (any version) as of right now, only versions of Linux, natively. Using a program like "XBochs", the Xbox **can** load Windows and DOS, but it will run very, very slowly. At this time, it's not practical to run Windows on the Xbox.

    • Umm, i have windows ce running on my xbox quite smoothly...  blink.gif
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    hculture

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    Things You Must Know About The Xbox:
    « Reply #1 on: January 31, 2004, 11:13:00 AM »
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    When you first install your modchip, if the xbox boots 3 times and then flashes red and green (FRAG), then u most likely have no bios installed on the chip. MAke sure you put a bios on, and if it still FRAG's, then u possibly could have a bad chip!


    or the bios you have loaded does not support the xbox/videochip you have
    i.e. x2 4979 and focus chipset
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    geniusalz

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    Things You Must Know About The Xbox:
    « Reply #2 on: January 31, 2004, 11:32:00 AM »
    QUOTE (TrUnX @ Jan 27 2004, 09:03 PM)
    QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 25 2003, 01:27 AM)

    • Xbox can NOT run Windows (any version) as of right now, only versions of Linux, natively. Using a program like "XBochs", the Xbox **can** load Windows and DOS, but it will run very, very slowly. At this time, it's not practical to run Windows on the Xbox.

    Umm, i have windows ce running on my xbox quite smoothly...  blink.gif

    As of right now DOES mean something dry.gif
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    GameDTX

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    « Reply #3 on: January 31, 2004, 05:14:00 PM »
    QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 25 2003, 01:24 AM)
    • There never has been, nor will there be, a PS2 or Gamecube emulator for the Xbox. Likewise, there is no Dreamcast emulator, either, and probably won't be one. Anybody who claims this is lying to you.


    ben, ur kindda wrong, their is a gc emulator for the pc, its still in beta stages, if they can do it for the pc, why the hell cant they for the xbox?  wink.gif
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    BenJeremy

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    « Reply #4 on: January 31, 2004, 07:01:00 PM »
    QUOTE (GameDTX @ Jan 31 2004, 09:38 PM)
    QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 25 2003, 01:24 AM)
    • There never has been, nor will there be, a PS2 or Gamecube emulator for the Xbox. Likewise, there is no Dreamcast emulator, either, and probably won't be one. Anybody who claims this is lying to you.


    ben, ur kindda wrong, their is a gc emulator for the pc, its still in beta stages, if they can do it for the pc, why the hell cant they for the xbox?  wink.gif

    IF you want to see things at <1fps, then yes, it's possible to emulate the GC on Xbox.

    Seriously, performance will suck in no uncertain terms.

    Running a full-blown GC emu on a PC will require the latest and greatest - which has the Xbox outclassed by 4 times the clock and 6 times the FSB, 1GB of RAM, and twice the bandwidth available form the hard drive.

    Emulating the GC is not practical on the Xbox, and never will be (same goes for PS2 and Dreamcast). We are lucky to have N64 - and even that's got difficulties, due to memory issues, and the GC is faster, in some ways, than the Xbox in processing power (having followed the Xbox).

    Practical emulation generally requires a ten-fold increase in processing power on the target machine, and what we have is, at BEST a 1-to-1 relationship. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
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    cleary

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    « Reply #5 on: February 02, 2004, 01:14:00 PM »
    said everything, i learned like 10 things just readin this tongue.gif
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    AnThRaX

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    « Reply #6 on: February 02, 2004, 01:52:00 PM »
    QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Jan 31 2004, 10:25 PM)
    QUOTE (GameDTX @ Jan 31 2004, 09:38 PM)
    QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 25 2003, 01:24 AM)
    • There never has been, nor will there be, a PS2 or Gamecube emulator for the Xbox. Likewise, there is no Dreamcast emulator, either, and probably won't be one. Anybody who claims this is lying to you.


    ben, ur kindda wrong, their is a gc emulator for the pc, its still in beta stages, if they can do it for the pc, why the hell cant they for the xbox?  wink.gif

    IF you want to see things at <1fps, then yes, it's possible to emulate the GC on Xbox.

    Seriously, performance will suck in no uncertain terms.

    Running a full-blown GC emu on a PC will require the latest and greatest - which has the Xbox outclassed by 4 times the clock and 6 times the FSB, 1GB of RAM, and twice the bandwidth available form the hard drive.

    Emulating the GC is not practical on the Xbox, and never will be (same goes for PS2 and Dreamcast). We are lucky to have N64 - and even that's got difficulties, due to memory issues, and the GC is faster, in some ways, than the Xbox in processing power (having followed the Xbox).

    Practical emulation generally requires a ten-fold increase in processing power on the target machine, and what we have is, at BEST a 1-to-1 relationship. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

    TOLD!  laugh.gif
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    nemt

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    « Reply #7 on: February 18, 2004, 12:14:00 PM »
    Very informative!

    What's this XBox SDK Recovery Disc you've mentioned?  What's so forboding about it?
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    drako

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    « Reply #8 on: March 02, 2004, 01:14:00 AM »
    im new to this scene.  im good with hardware/software and programming.  that was one of the best damned intro/guidelines i've ever seen.  it answered almost every single question on my mind since i got the xbox [just today].  =)

    thanks.
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    frozen lake

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    « Reply #9 on: March 06, 2004, 10:57:00 AM »
    nicely put .

    Thanks for taking time to write it  beerchug.gif
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    Novahux

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    « Reply #10 on: March 08, 2004, 02:21:00 AM »
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    Don't Feed Retard Monkey !

    oops, no wonder I can't get rid of the bastard now  dry.gif

    Nice and informative BJ, link to a PDF download would be good for emailing to those friends/relatives who make you wish your never installed a modchip for them.  beerchug.gif
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    Master-Chief

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    « Reply #11 on: March 13, 2004, 05:08:00 PM »
    Yea.....



    I think this thread needs an "update"!  wink.gif
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    DrSteve_

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    « Reply #12 on: March 19, 2004, 12:20:00 PM »
    laugh.gif Thx for taking the time to write this.. ! great post!
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    derived

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    « Reply #13 on: March 27, 2004, 05:19:00 PM »
    QUOTE (nemt @ Feb 18 2004, 09:38 PM)
    What's this XBox SDK Recovery Disc you've mentioned?  What's so forboding about it?

    Its a disc for devkit boxes to return to their original state.
    it will
    a) reformat HDD
    b ) reinstall the debug or retail dash version that u choose
    c) reprogram EEPROM in debug form
    d) might give you the option to flash the BIOS

    doing (c ) will stop retail BIOSs working if u have not embedded EEPROM
    doing (d) will stop any retail Xbox working

    edit: omg who is the idiot that decided cool.gif and © where smilies?
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    jdt532

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    « Reply #14 on: April 13, 2004, 04:18:00 PM »
    QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Sep 24 2003, 09:27 PM)
    • The xbox is NOT! water proof and dropping it into a swimming pool WILL damage and or distroy the box

    I could have used this info a week ago.  unsure.gif
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