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eminvil_12

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I Payed $80 For A Tsop Flash? Wtf
« on: November 28, 2004, 06:48:00 PM »

hi, i got my xbox chipped a while ago and have been wanting to know what chip i have, except i cannot find it.
i have looked at all my mates xboxs and can find their chips soldered to the lpc ports. but cant find anything on my motherboard, it looks stock to me.
the thing is i saw the guy solder something but i dont know what.
I payed $80aus for this. in the trading post he was advertising mod chips not TSOP flashes, so i should be able to get a mod chip off him shouldnt i?..... I am new to this particular forum as you can see, im not at all familiar with how to flash the TSOP.

thanks for everyones help, but still dont know what i am supposed to be looking for, it would be very helpful if someone could draw on one of the pictures i supplied of where this guy has soldered. and what he has done. if someone has a picture of a standard motherboard with no mods applied can they post it and show where the points soldered on my xbox are and what they are supposed to look like stock.

any help what so ever would be greatly appreciated, as i payed this fker $80aus to flash my TSOP, something i could have done myself for nothing.

i have included some pictures for you.

these are the links
mobo 1
mobo 2
mobo 3
close up, not best quality
close up 2 not best quality
close up 3 not best quality

i have a version 1.1 with hynix.
any help is greatly appreciated, thankyou.
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lordvader129

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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2004, 07:01:00 PM »

look at these spots

user posted image

and see if they are bridged with solder, if they are then go back and complain (if they arent you probably have a softmod, which is really somethign to complain about)
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2004, 07:39:00 PM »

The pictures never loaded for me so i couldn't see if u had pix of the bottom side of the mobo there...

Anyway, i've seen some installers install on the bottom of the board, slim chance, but possible.

How do u have to boot it, is there anything special going on with that? Any switches?
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eminvil_12

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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2004, 10:20:00 PM »

i can just boot it normally, all he did was come in the house set up the soldering iron do 30 secs of soldering and he was out, he pulled a little chip from the toolbox but he must have just pretended to solder it in.

and nothing special to boot it. just normal
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2004, 10:28:00 PM »

maybe used a chip to flash the tsop???
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eminvil_12

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2004, 10:33:00 PM »

QUOTE (lordvader129 @ Nov 29 2004, 04:04 AM)
look at these spots

user posted image

and see if they are bridged with solder, if they are then go back and complain (if they arent you probably have a softmod, which is really somethign to complain about)

those points you specified are not bridged, they are not soldered together.
so does this mean i have a softmod? and with softmods do you need to solder in anything or put in a cd?

because all he did was solder something, well it looked like he was.

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2004, 10:34:00 PM »

he probably bridged the points, flashed, then desoldered them so you wouldnt be able to update your bios without bringing it back to him
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eminvil_12

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2004, 10:42:00 PM »

the points look untouched, the are still nice and bubbleular if you know what im saying.
and what is the flashing process? because he didnt use any cds or anything like that if that is what you need for flashing.

im still learning abput this stuff so i apologize if anyhting im saying dont make sense wink.gif
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2004, 09:08:00 AM »

Well actually he could be a very clean, tidy and clever conning mofo too

he may of:

used the alternative tsop points which are underneath - usually joined by small kynar wire, flashed and removed wires but there should be some minor bits of solder left

could of used a piece of wire that just fitted into the track-holes - a little risky but leaves no marks

or another way is the wire joining the tsop points taped down with cellotape - risky if the circuit is weak or breaks whilst flashing but again leaves no trace

he could of softmodded it but to be sure about this you would need to get another unlocked xbox hd and see if it boots ok or if you get error 5 or 6
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2004, 09:27:00 AM »

Before you start calling the police I would first talk to him first and try to sort out this misunderstanding - ripping whatever it may be called

You say this was a while ago and certains words or the way they are used may mean different things

"I will mod your xbox" this can mean I will modify your xbox

"I will put an xecuter 2 on there" - hmmm little misleading he may of put an xecuter 2 bios on there and that is what he meant he will say

Unless he said he will fit an xecuter modchip - "MODCHIP" then he hasn't actually comitted any fraud

If he said xecuter 2 mod - then he may say yeah it was modified with an xecuter 2 mod / bios = xecuter 2 modification

No I ain't sticking up for the bloke - he seems to have mislead you and you may have paid for something you thought you was getting but did not
You go in their all guns blazing and calling the police he is gonna get pissed and he may have a very good chance of getting out of this like the examples I listed above and besides - it's your word against his

What you could do is try to talk to him saying something like you are going to go live next month and can't find the switch to disable the mod he is supposed to have fitted etc.......

You may be able to come to an agreement on a spare pad/game etc...... without it getting shitty or you trying to ruin this bloke's reputation/business - though it seems he ain't exactly honest with his customers

Yes there are some some piss takers, rippers and bad installers out there, I'd try the calm chat method first about using LIVE when you get broadband next month first

then tell everyone he's a fucking conning bastard after you got it all resolved
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2004, 03:19:00 PM »

QUOTE (xokia @ Nov 29 2004, 05:18 PM)
Your pictures are of the back of the board modchips and TSOP flash are on the other side of the board.


this bloke told me when i bought the tsop flash that i cant go on live. and i already told him i have live and wont be using it.

ok this guy left his number and details on a few stickers under the xbox, right on top of the two screws under the stickers.

so i now have his deatails and i matched his number to the one in the tradingpost and his add reads:

modchips installed $80
evolution x upgrades $60

call xxxx xxx xxx

so should i ring him and ask all about this problem, he says he installs a modchip, which isnt a tsop flash right?

anyway what do you think i should do.

pizza pizz - your methods sound good but i already have broadband and live.

i have tried my mates hard drive in mine and my xbox still works fine, plays all my burnt games and etc. so this means it isnt softmodded



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eminvil_12

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2004, 04:06:00 PM »

bump,last post didnt go through
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2004, 07:58:00 PM »

well if you bridge the points with solder its pretty easy to un bridge thwm and make it look like nothing happened.
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eminvil_12

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2004, 08:58:00 PM »

yeh i looked at the points more closely and compared them to another set of points the same size on the mobo and they have definitely been tampered with, so he has done a tsop flash.

can anyone explain what he has done, i know a little bit but not all of it.

i know he has bridged those two points, but then what has he done?

is all you have to do is turn the xbox on then off then un bridge them, i dont know. i have looked at the tuts but done fully understand them.

can someone just quickly clarify the steps he has taken to tsop my xbox.

step 1 is bridging those two points then what?


thanks
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2004, 09:10:00 PM »

he probably loaded eurasia from a 007 save and had it flash the TSOP
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