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[eminvil_12]

[LookieLue]

your going to sell it  at the same trading post you got this guy in
if he wont give you your money back that dose not sound wise

[iLLNESS]

QUOTE (el_diablo @ Dec 1 2004, 02:35 AM)

man i charge $70 AUD for modchip installs   and i actually do install the chip maybe i should charge more you got ripped really bad. just those 2 points... where abouts in australia are you? im in melbourne

well theres alot less risk installing a modchip then flashing a tsop

if the person wants a modchip ill install it for less then a tsop install...
the reason i want a tsop install is usually cause theyre too cheap to buy a modchip.. theyre usually the ones who bitch about problems.. so what are you going to do when the power goes out? u just gonna hand them theyre xbox back and say tough luck?

doing a tsop install may be less work, but ALOT more risk.. if u fuckup, the xbox is toast
a mod install generally if u fuck up its pretty easy to fix

plus, tsop users tend to want everything done for them.. dash's installed/emus loaded/etc
plus upgrading the hdd...

chip installs i set them with the basics.. ftp support and thats it..

its everyones opinion though.. imo tsop flashing is worth more money

if they wanna buy a $40 modchip and pay another $40 for an install thats fine.. or they can pay $50 to get a tsop flashed and save $30

if people pay whats the problem.. look at xbox live the price is ridiculous..

imo i dont feel $70 aus is a rip off at all.. sure he didnt pay for any actual hardware, but he paid for a service, he paid less then he would have to get a modchip and installed...

but in his personal case, he paid for a service/product he did not receive

[DevoDave]

Ronnie,

If there is anyone on the planet that can take out a TSOP and replace it with mobile equipment, I would bow my head to a true soldering GOD!!

Damn hard, and VERY difficult to do quickly.

[Heet]

[desertboy]

I charge £30-50 to flash the TSoP and install a HD depending.

I'd charge £50 to fit a modchip (Including chip) but everyone always goes with the TSoP.

[bourke]

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i think ill sell my xbox in the tradingpost for as much as i can get then buy a new one. and chip it.

Note that the current Xboxes are harder to do, and so the guys in the trading post will charge you at least $90 to chip them.

It may be cheaper just the chip the one you already have (I could do that for $60).

cheers,
Richard

P.S. I'm in Balwyn North

[JohnnyHunng]

[eminvil_12]

he was tryin to get into xbox modding aswell and he removed the jewell and snapped it in half then painted it red, looks like shit so im hoping to get it for  cheaper

im going to try get his xbox and two controllers, and a few games for under $120aus.
i think ill offer him exaclty $100.

and i was actually going to install the chip myself, not some one else.
except i need to find a place in aus which sells them.
if anyone can help me out that would be great.
im thinking of buying one from quantronics.

and burke, i dont have a chip at the moment  

[DevoDave]

QUOTE (RonnieIsBack @ Dec 3 2004, 10:55 PM)

Maybe you dont know how good someone can be... Jesus Walks

Yes... I've done it that way myself, but it was NOT quick.  A SMT hot air unit gives better results.

Have to have balls of steel to attempt to do that for a paying customer while he/she is watching!

BUT...  The dude did the job quickly!!  I would think that possibly he used an in-circuit programmer rather than this.

[Ozmods]

Wow removing the TSOP and soldering it back that way looks far too clumsy..
Notice how some of the legs where getting bent?..well it wouldn't take much for them to break off.
Also he skips most of the time spent cleaning up the legs of the chip after removing it, using that method alot of time would be needed to straighten the legs up and get them clean enough to fit in a programming socket..

Keep in mind the longer you keep the iron on the tracks the more chance you will cause damage to the board..
If there are any noobs that are thinking of doing this make sure you find some old board and practice allot.

I can remove the TSOP, re-program and re-solder it within 15 mins and i have done many while the customer waits but i have the right equipment...

So i suppose if you don't want to buy a SMD rework tool that is a cheaper alternative.

[eminvil_12]

QUOTE (RonnieIsBack @ Dec 3 2004, 10:55 PM)

Maybe you dont know how good someone can be... Jesus Walks

he didnt remove and resolder another TSOP, i told you it all looks stock.

and what is an in circuit programmer ?

[eminvil_12]

were not, its just that he was really quick and mobo still looks stock, also what is an in circuit programmer?

[eminvil_12]

jeez, he didnt replace the tsop.  all he did was solder those points and use an in curcuit programmer. i think

[DevoDave]

If he *DID* use an In Circuit Programmer, he wouldn't have had to solder the write-enable points as the ICP would have tied those pins high.

I really think he used a 007/mechassault exploit, but you didn't notice him whack in the game disk.

Really, all this talk of TSOP removal and ICP's ignore the fact that it is only a simple job to do a TSOP flash, so why would anyone make things difficult?  At the end of the day, your modder provided you with a modified xbox at a price which is not unreasonable for a house call.

Perhaps your modder didn't communicate effectively with you (language difficulties?) in regard to what he was doing, but on the other hand you didn't question him either.

You have plenty of offers to put an actual modchip in your box at a reasonable price (and I'll add to the list.  $80 installed for an Aladdin, and I'll revert your TSOP to stock.  See www.meltonmods.com) so if it bothers you that much, fix it.