Topic: Tsop Flashing So Easy (Read 533 times)

phyl0x · « **on:** July 26, 2003, 08:31:00 AM »

The biggest reason is that you can turn off mod chips...so xbox live play is possible. With tsop flashing you're stuck with the new bios all the time (sure you can flash back to the original bios) but thats not exactly like flipping a switch. But i agree, tsop flashing is alot easier than people suspect. I bet alot of people who are interesting in modding now because of the bert and ernie stuff, dont even realize how tsop flashing is easier and less painful than playing around with the dashboard exploits (trust me i've been playing with them...its more frustrating than anything).

Xeero · « **Reply #1 on:** July 26, 2003, 08:35:00 AM »

You can flip a switch with a 1.0 board, but what are you going to do with the 256K TSOP in the 1.2/1.3? You can put ONE BIOS on there. It can't be debug. If the X3 BIOS releases are 512K, then you're sitting that round out. Also, a bad flash is much more difficult to recover.

iLLNESS · « **Reply #2 on:** July 26, 2003, 11:57:00 AM »

hehe

tsop flashing is fine
u can do anything wiht a v1 or v1.1 tsop that u can do with a mod

u can have a switch to disable (boot retail bios)
u can flash protect it
u can multibios it

and u can have leds and whatnot to tell you allwhat your doing...

modchips are for lazy people who dont know what a best buy is and who are tooo much of a pussy to risk a tsop (which u really only fuckup if your a dumbass)

Blind_Samurai · « **Reply #3 on:** July 26, 2003, 12:19:00 PM »

QUOTE

modchips are for lazy people who dont know what a best buy is and who are tooo much of a pussy to risk a tsop (which u really only fuckup if your a dumbass)

Speak for yourself. Some people like modchips not because they are pussies (or afraid of something), but because they like to tinker with hardware and modify stuff. Calling people who install modchips "pussies" just makes you even worse than a pussy. And don't worry, everybody knows what a Best Buy is....

unsc1 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 26, 2003, 01:24:00 PM »

alot of people got there chips before this new shit was possible

Hammy · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2003, 08:50:00 PM »

Well prime0196,I really hope that this bullshit TSOP flashing keeps working for you but i will tell you how that one day you will come unstuck with a bad flash and i hope i am the first here to call you a total dickhead,I am waiting for you to fuck up

LEDHaywire · « **Reply #6 on:** July 26, 2003, 09:06:00 PM »

Do The Math, TSOP is easier, cheaper and less worrysome as a modchip, modchips are nothing more than a rip off. If you wanna play Live, buy a seperate XBOX to do so. Only TSOP if you want to take advantage of your XBOX and its features that will probably never come out.

==========================================================

15 watt solder gun /w fine tip - $7
0.32 dia silver bearing solder (lead free)- $2.50
Complex Bios Loader - Free
Slayers Evox Installer - Free
Blank CD-RW Disk - $2.00
Soldering Expirience
Not Being Afraid to Open You Xbox
Tutorial on flashing TSOP - Free
---------------------------------------------------------------
Total Cost =$11.50

Xecuter 2 Pro Chip - $59
0.32 dia silver bearing solder (lead free)- $2.50
15 watt solder gun /w fine tip - $7
Complex Bios Loader - Free
Slayers Evox Installer - Free
Blank CD-RW Disk - $2.00
Soldering Expirience
Not Being Afraid to Open You Xbox
Instructions on installing a Xecuter 2 Pro Chip - Free
---------------------------------------------------------------
Total Cost =$70.50 ($90 for that wimpy pogo pin adapter)

senator · « **Reply #7 on:** July 26, 2003, 09:14:00 PM »

QUOTE (LEDHaywire @ Jul 27 2003, 06:06 AM)

Do The Math, TSOP is easier, cheaper and less worrysome as a modchip, modchips are nothing more than a rip off. If you wanna play Live, buy a seperate XBOX to do so. Only TSOP if you want to take advantage of your XBOX and its features that will probably never come out.

==========================================================

15 watt solder gun /w fine tip - $7
0.32 dia silver bearing solder (lead free)- $2.50
Complex Bios Loader - Free
Slayers Evox Installer - Free
Blank CD-RW Disk - $2.00
Soldering Expirience
Not Being Afraid to Open You Xbox
Tutorial on flashing TSOP - Free
---------------------------------------------------------------
Total Cost =$11.50

Xecuter 2 Pro Chip - $59
0.32 dia silver bearing solder (lead free)- $2.50
15 watt solder gun /w fine tip - $7
Complex Bios Loader - Free
Slayers Evox Installer - Free
Blank CD-RW Disk - $2.00
Soldering Expirience
Not Being Afraid to Open You Xbox
Instructions on installing a Xecuter 2 Pro Chip - Free
---------------------------------------------------------------
Total Cost =$70.50 ($90 for that wimpy pogo pin adapter)

SORRY your numbers don't add up....

+ $327 Aus.. For another xbox for LIVE... and if a bad TSOP flash occurs...
So a Mod chip is still cheaper.............

TSOP flashing has been around almost from the start, But it was all possible after a MOD chip was developed.....

BUT it's the persons choice of what they do

?
And good luck on your decision...

smokeingit · « **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2003, 01:12:00 AM »

Senator... your math is as wrong as LEDHaywire. if you screw up your TSOP, 20 bucks cheap mod will fix it.
if you solder the mod chip and you burn trace's.... 150us referb....

So i guess it is kinda smarter and cheaper to go with TSOP.

Hammy is a dumb ass that thinks people should pay for the chips. but not the games.

LEDHaywire · « **Reply #9 on:** July 27, 2003, 02:23:00 AM »

where the heck did i put "unsucessful flash of tsop " on the ledger. You can buy a cheapmod if your soldering skills are sloppy. All in all if you have a sucessful TSOP flash youre set. Now wipe the sweat off your forehead and say "whooosaaaa" just like in Bad Boys 2. Just solder those damn bridge points right. I have seen some noobs use the electrician quality 1.2dia solder and burn a hole through their board. Right now im strongly considering a modifiaction of a xbox ver 1.2 board with a ZIF Bios slot.

If you have abad tsop flash just pop in a Matrix chip and download the Complex reflash kit from the newsboards. Youll be back in business.

THEMASTERFUL1 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 27, 2003, 08:46:00 AM »

I have installed tons of modchips but I think it is so much easier to flash he tsop, also you can recover a bad flash and the cost is very small compared to a modchip

lordvader129 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 27, 2003, 05:25:00 PM »

i dont get it, why is this issue so black and white? why do the modchips fans say NEVER EVER flash your TSOP like there is a 99.99% chance of killing your box, and why do the TSOP fans say modchips are for suckers? im just wondering

(and to anyone who says TSOP flashes DO in fact have a 99.99% chance of killing your box, ive done 3 of them with no problems whatsoever, and trust me, i aint that lucky)

Xeero · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2003, 05:32:00 PM »

Nobody says there is a 99.9% chance of killing your Xbox. However, nobody can argue with me that a bad TSOP flash is more of a thorn in anyone's side than a bad mod flash. With a bad mod flash, you can disable the mod and still use the Xbox as if it was unmodded. You then have the option of using an exploit to reflash your mod. With a bad TSOP flash, you're forced to install additional hardware (a mod chip) to recover.

To all the above hardcore anti-modchip 'I'm-a-TSOP-badass' posters:
I am very much not a pussy because I use a mod chip. I'm prudent enough to preserve the TSOP as is. I don't mind forking over a couple bucks for a high-quality product. Also, this 'math' isn't hurting me because I already own all the equipment necessary to solder. If you call paying for a modchip a rip-off, what to do you call owning a whole other Xbox for Live, as you had recommended?

smokeingit · « **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2003, 05:37:00 PM »

that last thing anyone would call Xeero is a pussy, shit i think you installed your enigmah is enough to say that you are not one. i have a mod chip because i just like it. do i need it? not at all. I support the scene as much as anyone else, if not more. any customer that ever goes to my house for a quick install can see that i have over 30 xbox games that i paid for. but Xeero no es un pussy.

Xeero · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2003, 05:48:00 PM »

QUOTE (smokeingit @ Jul 27 2003, 09:37 PM)

that last thing anyone would call Xeero is a pussy, shit i think you installed your enigmah is enough to say that you are not one. i have a mod chip because i just like it. do i need it? not at all. I support the scene as much as anyone else, if not more. any customer that ever goes to my house for a quick install can see that i have over 30 xbox games that i paid for. but Xeero no es un pussy.

Ironically, I bought my Enigmah as a premod!

It was just because I was feeling lazy for a while and didn't feel like dealing with it. It wasn't for fear or lack of skill. I do PS2 installs, which are obviously harder than a 29-wire homebrew. I'll argue with you and say that if you're going to call me a pussy for any reason, it would have to be because I bought a freakin' premod.

Anyway, I've since installed an X2 Pro and a Chameleon in my Xbox (granted, they're LPC and not homebrew), and have done dozens of Xbox and PS2 installs, so I hope that kind of rectifies my poor standing with God.

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