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[smokeingit]

QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 12 2003, 02:18 AM)

lol so what? you can be booting up linux the LEGAL kernal and they cant do a thing... say they do scan (which they wont because it goes into privacy and they dont like lawsuits) and see your only using bank 1 and 2.... in theroy you can be using the rest for linux which is a total legal bios, you might want to read up on that. you have still taken apart your xbox and moded it! and as far a linux since when has ms said linux is ok again we go with the part that i like to say (lawsuit) if i am legaly going on there live software they really cant get me for anything. so they can scan all they want... until i screw up and leave the hack on.... they really dont have anything on me. or should i say us. again when did ms say its ok to flash you tsops with any   bios even a linux only bios read the info on the dashboard lol the law does not matter you agreed to the terms set my MS which means you cant fuck around with your xbox at all you can use vcc-a18-earth and vcc-a19-earth to split them 4ways

this one is really easy tool. so let me ask you where you stand, i rightfully purchased my xbox with my cash. i can beat the crap out of it with a hammer if i choose. the only thing i cant do is reverse engineer it, mod it to play priated games, or take it to a country like iraq.
so with this comment that you made.
"he law does not matter you agreed to the terms set my MS which means you cant fuck around with your xbox at all"
your telling me that everyone that modded there system by opening it broke the law? well shit, why have there be no arrests?
again you dont know the law so you really are talking out of your ass in this issue. software is a different issue. no one owns software, even if you pay for the CD they pretty much only let you borrow the key until MS decides to take it back. and i have fully read there agrements and i think that sucks

[warbeast]

no i never said they are breaking the law you muppert read my post again i said the terms you agreed to when buying a xbox and signing up to live you prick

[Noilegnave Siseneg Noen]

but seriously folks, what's the real debate here?  Is there really any question that you can potentially be banned by modding your xbox and going on live?

I thought that much was clear by now.  I guess the debate is now how much you can cover your tracks with either TSOP modding vs modchipping?  Or is the topic of discussion even related to that any more?

Maybe it's all about the love of the flames now...oh well, i didn't join x-s for nuthin...

[smokeingit]

warbeast is still stuck on dumb and still fails to understand what he even is talking about. i understand what live says, you cant go on their server with hacked shit. we already know that. thats been clear for a year now. if you use a TSOP when you boot up that is not hacked they cant ban you.
so let me dumb it up for you.
half tosp hacked and other half not, and you use none hacked tsop to go on live = no ban
use the other half to go online OR use a modchip = ban
this is the comment that you used missy

"again when did ms say its ok to flash you tsops with any bios even a linux only bios read the info on the dashboard lol

the law does not matter you agreed to the terms set my MS which means you cant fuck around with your xbox at all"
Read your own post again. sucks to be you =)

[warbeast]

that post was to Noilegnave Siseneg Noen
as for smokeingit

yes if you boot with a normal bios your ok for live my point was about the post saying scaning your lpc and tops

my point was if they do some how scan your tsops if they see a linux or any other bios other then the default bios they can ban you not send you to jail but BAN you if you use a mod and take it out they will see a 100% default tsops and every thing will be ok!!

[Noilegnave Siseneg Noen]

QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 12 2003, 05:03 PM)

if you flash your tsops you can fix a mistake if you dont fuck the hole tsops what if say you fucked half your tsops then booted to the good half but made a MISTAKE and didnt flick the switch and flash the only good half with a bad bios??

I suppose one could do this, but if one did, one would have more serious problems to be concerned with than the state of one's xbox....like the fact that one has Down Syndrome or some shit that made one do this in the first place. best join the special olympics in this case, and not worry about the box for awhile until they come out with Barney the Dinosaur the Game for Xbox.

or maybe the moderators can create a new section for 'special' modders and their 'special' mistakes?



oh god....i'm so going to hell....

[warbeast]

lol so its gone from facts about mods to a little boy calling names well ok i dont call names but hows this

[warbeast]

get over it! i have a xecuter2 pro for sale ill do you a good deal if you want

[Noilegnave Siseneg Noen]

whoa!  was that for me?

[warbeast]

first off takeing the piss out of disabled people is curel! i think even disabled people have better sence then flashing there tsops

and if you want to go into a flame war i'm up for it but just so everyone knows i did post facts about xbox live and after a post about xboxlive scanning the lpc to stop mods in the future i replyed to say its just as easy to scan the tsops!!!!

[Noilegnave Siseneg Noen]

okay, well, I still haven't figured out if that finger was for me.  I was hoping it was, because I went back and read my previous post carefully just to make sure, and yep, there's not an insult in there for the finger-bearer...just for the schmuck that hoses both sides of a switched TSOP with a bad BIOS.  I mean c'mon, seriously.  What else could cause someone to do this but Down Syndrome?

Anyway, that would be really funny, to get that finger, all for me, when no insult was given in the first place.  Because that would give me an excuse to really behave like an ass.  But just in case it wasn't for me, I'll not start being an ass just yet.

In closing, to get back to topic a bit, I'd say that the best mod, if you want to fuck around with Live, would be a removable chip with a switchable hdd setup, one being an unaltered retail drive (The same thing applies here, if you are retarded you could log on with a mod bios and get banned, just for the record).  However, I have no interest in Live, and I no weetahded (that I know of) so it would be really difficult for me to hose all of my switched TSOP.

next please.

[warbeast]

[Noilegnave Siseneg Noen]

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QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 12 2003, 10:54 PM)

first off takeing the piss out of disabled people is curel! i think even disabled people have better sence then flashing there tsops and if you want to go into a flame war i'm up for it but just so everyone knows i did post facts about xbox live and after a post about xboxlive scanning the lpc to stop mods in the future i replyed to say its just as easy to scan the tsops!!!!

They don't have more sense, it's just that nobody'd trust them with a Torx driver and a soldering iron!

[Noilegnave Siseneg Noen]

QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 12 2003, 10:28 PM)

also ill just like to clear a few things up incase we get a repeat i in know way said ms are scanning xbox tsops or the lpc and i never said they will ban you at this point in time one thing i have learned is not to talk about what you feel ms will do only ms know this. some think nothing will happen some think ms will nuke there xbox as long. as they dont nuke my xbox while i'm on castle wolfenstein i dont care!

I would agree on this point.  I'd say it's fairly safe to play xbl with a switched TSOP, using the retail half.  There would be little point to M$ fucking with people playing legit games with legit BIOSes on xbl, their primary concern is that of people trying to cheat, using a mod BIOS, or backup games on xbl.  However, just because they shouldn't fuck with you doesn't mean they won't.  The only foolproof setup you can conjure, as I see it, would be one that removes all evidence of modding before you go on xbl...i.e., ,modchip completely removed and original retail hdd with no mod files in place.  Of course, I don't know the technical aspects of scanning a switched TSOP.  But it seems like it would be possible to see a size change or something if they really wanted to fuck with you hard.

personally, I don't care at all about having xbl on my own system.  I think it's a neat concept and all, but my impression of it was that it sucks.  Lots of extra stuff for games....sure, if you feel like forking over more dough.  let's see you get nude volleyball from xbl, or flamethrowers for Halo.  Hell, you can't even play Halo on xbl, yet you can play it on XBConnect.  What kind of a sick joke is that?!