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[underthebridge]

QUOTE (akula169 @ Jun 29 2003, 06:14 PM)

So, no, I don't think MS is happy that you bought their box to hack it and not to play games on it.

Well too bad for them. I'm happy  Let M$ lose some of their billions, I couldn't care less.  

[KKNDhawk]

QUOTE (underthebridge @ Jun 29 2003, 11:58 PM)

QUOTE (akula169 @ Jun 29 2003, 06:14 PM) So, no, I don't think MS is happy that you bought their box to hack it and not to play games on it. Well too bad for them. I'm happy  Let M$ lose some of their billions, I couldn't care less.

Wow - some of you are really ignorant.

Now, I'm not calling M$ good nor bad.

But Billy Gates donated $100million dollars to A.I.D.S. research.

From there, you can't call him a evil man - since he donated a huge significant amount of money, to the say the least, to the AIDS.

Stop playing your modded X-Box and do something constructive.

BTW w/"story" included: I was in a airport the other day reading a magazine, waiting for my flight, and a "new study" said that the #2 reason why young couples break up when their married, is because of video-games.  They are so addicted to it.  The magazine mentioned people going to "console parties" at least once week or thrice a month.  
It was a good read, nonetheless, if you agree with it or not (even though it was a "study", and your opinion does not have mcuh validity.)

#1 was finances (also mentioned the game addicts would get a paycheck from McDonalds and spent nearly all of it and playing the new action game (with enhanced graphics, mind you...lol)

#3 was couples cheating on each other /affairs

#4 was pornography.  Spending time on the internet looking at porn instead of, "spending time" with the wife.  And you can interpret "spending time" as however you like.

that was all that I remember from the article.

Sorry for the rant....but I'm getting sick of people calling him a evil man.  You can't EVEN thank him for donating $100million on AIDS research, but only when I mention that you should.

[Alkane]

He donates more then that, billions goto schools, libraries, etc from this man

[da_shiznit]

    and dont interpret what he said saying he is an evil man cuz i interpreted it saying he doesnt care about the company M$.........my 2 cents

[underthebridge]

QUOTE (KKNDhawk @ Jun 30 2003, 01:28 AM)

Wow - some of you are really ignorant. Now, I'm not calling M$ good nor bad. But Billy Gates donated $100million dollars to A.I.D.S. research. From there, you can't call him a evil man - since he donated a huge significant amount of money, to the say the least, to the AIDS. Stop playing your modded X-Box and do something constructive.

Wow - some of you are MORE ignorant.

Where did I mention bill gates, or even say anything bad about him? I KNEW he donates alot of his money, and I certainly do not think he's evil! I've seen videos of his life story, I've watched his interviews on TV, and I even have his book (Business @ the Speed of Thought). So next time don't go assuming things that aren't true. Look at what da_shiznit has to say too.

[da_shiznit]

shesh

[underthebridge]

da_shiznit, I (underthebridge) said that quote, not KKNDhawk. Then KKNDhawk flamed me. I saw your post about KKNDhawk misenterpreting what I said, and told him to have a look at it. Because after all, he did misunderstand.

Also, I didn't call anyone here stupid. Maybe you should get your facts straight...

[da_shiznit]

[underthebridge]

QUOTE (da_shiznit @ Jun 30 2003, 06:26 AM)

ps  you did call someone ignorant (ignorant = stupid)

oh, I was just returning the favor to him

[trasixes]

Just to clear up a few misconceptions:

Signing the linux loader would give away nothing in terms of MS's private key. Comparing the non-signed and signed versions of the loader would only give you the signature. The signature would only be valid for that code. In a nutshell, the signature is unique to each .xbe file. Changing one byte of the *signed* linux loader would (depending on how the signature is calculated) make the signature invalid and cause it to fail whatever verification is involved. There would be no way to calculate the key based upon the signature, otherwise modern cryptography would be a complete failure.

[iLLNESS]

QUOTE (KKNDhawk @ Jun 30 2003, 01:28 AM)

Sorry for the rant....but I'm getting sick of people calling him a evil man.  You can't EVEN thank him for donating $100million on AIDS research, but only when I mention that you should.

100 million dollars is pocket change to bill gates
and i guarantee he only did it to keep up his public image

hes money hungry.. i bet it took a hell of allotta convincing to get him to donate that money....

he could afford to take on 1 million homeless kids for that 89 cents a month thing or whatever... but does he? no

100million dollars to aids research is pointless.... about 10million of that will ever see research.... he coulda done something about the fucked up world with that 100 million... coulda have taken care of poverty children as i say


he is an evil man...

think of it this way.. a man who robs people blind everyday... then donates $1000 of the money hes stolen.. isnt an evil man anymore? even though he still has $1000's of stolen coin in his bank?

bill gates is no different... he sold windows for dirt back in the day.. got everyone dependent on it.. then jacked up the price....
who the fuck would pay $800 CAD for winxp pro...
theres like 3 things different in it... thats gates for you

i bet about $750 of that product are profit...

anways.. onto video games breaking up marriages.. thats bullshit...
i bet maybe %1 of young marriages are broken up thatr way cause i sure as hell know i dont go to video game parties

ahha

fags

and who the fuck spends time looking at porn when theyve got a willing partner.. damn... that magasine was basically ust describing the average computer nerd and implying that thats what causes divorces..
haha



either way... i could care less about linux getting signed.... gates aint gonna do shit with that cause hes already fucked with the buffer overflow exploits

[Mage]

QUOTE (KKNDhawk @ Jun 29 2003, 05:28 PM)

BTW w/"story" included: I was in a airport the other day reading a magazine, waiting for my flight, and a "new study" said that the #2 reason why young couples break up when their married, is because of video-games.  They are so addicted to it.  The magazine mentioned people going to "console parties" at least once week or thrice a month.   It was a good read, nonetheless, if you agree with it or not (even though it was a "study", and your opinion does not have mcuh validity.) #1 was finances (also mentioned the game addicts would get a paycheck from McDonalds and spent nearly all of it and playing the new action game (with enhanced graphics, mind you...lol) #3 was couples cheating on each other /affairs #4 was pornography.  Spending time on the internet looking at porn instead of, "spending time" with the wife.  And you can interpret "spending time" as however you like.

That's quite funny.  You really need to see their sample size, location, and a few other factors to see how valid that research is.

My guess is they had a small sample size, thus making the whole research useless for anyone but the people who got the grant.

For young couples I think cheating would be the major reason followed by finance and then followed by one of the people ending up in jail, at least that's how it is here...

As for a person saying MS steals money, uh they don't.  They knew how to market and did a good job.  If you were Bill Gates you wouldn't be complaining about their aggressive marketing methods.  I think the majority of people who dislike MS are naive or envious.

[Exobex]

QUOTE (BEClueless @ Jun 30 2003, 04:33 PM)

If M$ hadn't done so much work on perfecting their windows system to make it simple for the end user then they wouldn't have any right to charge as much money for thier programs as they do...

<rant>
Perfecting it?  They're forever introducing bugs in it!  And no sooner do you get used to the way it works, they screw around with it so you haven't got a clue.  What's the point in a "My network places" icon which opens a window with pretty much fuck all other than a bit that says something like "click here to view other computers on your network".  Why the fuck else would you click on "My network places" in the first place?  Just do it!  And just try browsing for a NetWare server (or Linux server running Mars) under XP.  Network Neighborhood, Netware Servers?  You wish!  Five minutes of piss-arsing about while it tries to find resources on the Internet, up the chimney, anywhere except on your sodding LAN!

On a slightly different note, some observations I came up with about 5 years ago:-

Viruses can cause:-
Programs to crash for no reason
Unexpected data loss
Slow response as they hog the CPU

Funnily enough, under Windows you can expect:-
Programs to crash for no reason
Unexpected data loss
Slow response as it hogs the CPU

How come Windows 95's Bullshit Wizard (a.k.a. Windows Setup) used to claim that under Windows 95 "MS-DOS based games run better and more reliably"?  Than under DOS?  I don't bloody think so!  And of course Windows 98 is faster than Windows 95, you've got to buy a PC that's 3x faster to run it!  (min. spec 386DX40 for Win95, 486DX66 for Win98)

</rant>

[RinGz]

M$ is losing hellsa money on xbox hardware. The only money they make is on the games, so no, the would want this to happen.  Also I read that the new hack does NOT utilize the auf/mech hack (i could be wrong tho), so I'll be interested in finding out what other methods they could have used...

[shortstuff22090]

i hope the exploit is released.i have nutin aginst M$, but that would be way better then taking the risks of flashing the tsop.  i hope if its release it is released soon