The only reason I never recommend solderless adapters is solely because of these boards. Most ppl that buy adapters are ppl with no modding experience and therefore have problems installing them. At least 95% of the problems with the adapters is user error and users not taking the time to research first. Obviously groups wouldnt sell them if they didn't work and ppl wouldn't buy them if they didn't work, but when the majority of posts on these boards is "I installed a solderless adapter now it flashes red and green, what's wrong?" then there is obviously an issue. I tried a spider chip once about a week ago because he already bought the chip and before he brought it to me the screw was already stripped, so thats the extent of my solderless experience hands on, I can only go by what I see other ppl do. When HSDEMONZ says he has dozens of boxes with solderless chips that work perfect, that does not surprise me because he has a brain in his head. Most ppl that buy these things try to install them, can't line it up in 5 minutes, then come here and sign up just to ask whats wrong. Thats what bothers me. Thats the jist of what these boards have come down to, ppl asking for help with a solderless adapter. Hopefully once the next xbox comes out we will see more technical discussions, but until then all these boards are now is "why is my solderless chip fragging?".