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[XboxDude87]

hm...i burned the iso to a cd-r and hit recovery...and now i get this Loading...-Halt screen... is that bad?

[Gumba]

QUOTE (XboxDude87 @ Aug 24 2004, 05:14 AM)

hm...i burned the iso to a cd-r and hit recovery...and now i get this Loading...-Halt screen... is that bad?

This probably means that it couldn't read the CD properly.

That's the problem, xbox dvd drives suck and it can be nearly impossible to find a brand of media which will burn right. Try a dvd-r.

[XboxDude87]

nvm, i just accidentally burned it in dvd format on a cd, lol. I have a Samsung drive, and my TDK cd-r's work great.

[XboxDude87]

Sorry if i'm being a little shortcut with you. But you don't add the dashboard. You add the bios that loads the dashboard.

[XboxDude87]

QUOTE (Smasher9a @ Aug 24 2004, 05:59 AM)

ROFL i am such a MORON   thanks xboxdude, i got worried and forget everything

Its ok, we all do stupid things sometimes. You can't help it if you forget one minor thing now and then.  

[XboxDude87]

Your problem, is not a problem. If you look closely its green, with a little bit of red in it, a very little bit. The amber isn't that great, lol

[Gumba]

I just did the HD based XOS2b2 install, and it went perfectly

1) ftp "recovery.bin" from the XeniumOS_2.0_BETA2_HDD.rar to e:\  (i used avalaunch ftpd)
2) poweroff
3) eject button to get to XOS2
4) choose "recovery"

xbox reboots, recovery screen comes up, yellow text starts appearing at the top, I believe it said recovering, eject leds flash green and red for 30-60 seconds or so, then the xbox shutdown

when I powered back up I had the new metalic look XOS2 )

...

I have a Crystal Edition 1.4 xbox with Xenium ICE, a 200GB locked HD upgraded with XOS2PR with C,E,X,Y & Z formatted with EvoX.

Now some initial comments


* the recovery mode needs to have the text lower down, it was cut off the top edge of my cheap PAL tv I use when i've got the xbox with my computer, I could just see the bottom 10% of all the letters (huge overscan )

* I like the new skin, although I didn't mind the old one, this is more subdued, which is nice. It will be way cool to be able to have custom skins, I wouldn't even mind if the skins loaded in the BIOS 1MB rather than from the OS 1MB, who needs a full MB of bioses anywho

* restore factory defaults, cooool

* installers menu is still there  (LS click + A to select "Settings" menu)

* Add Launch Item to Flash from HD file browser... sorts the drive in reverse alphabetical order? or is it just that that's in creation order on my disk? (i restored my drive once ), sooo, it should be forced to alphabetical...

* Keyboard (for BIOS naming), needs an insertion point so you can see your spaces when you type them (for example, if you type "X2 4981.06 " you can't tell if there is a space or not , once you have an insertion point, you might as well add <- and -> to the keyboard so that you can move the insertion point , no more having to delete 10 characters to fix the case on the first character.

* Assign Quick Boot. I see it puts " -A" after the retail kernel... this appears to be the default quickboot... okay, I added my "X2 4981.06 blue" bios... and assigned "B" to it by accident... oops... lets change it to X (the blue button).... now it is called "X2 4981.06 blue -B -X" hehe , I think the renaming logic needs a bit more logic .

The interesting thing is if I then assign "A" to the blue bios, the " -A" is removed from the retail kernel! and now the bios is called "X2 4981.06 blue -A -B -X"!, So then I assigned X, B, A to the Retail Kernel, the retail kernel is now called "Retail Kernel -A -B -X" and the other one "X2 4981.06 blue", so I assigned X to the blue one "X2 4981.06 blue -X" and the retail one becomes "Retail Kernel -A -B".

So it gets interesting... Oh there's a rename option , cool... delete the " -A -B" (get bitten by the no insertion point so can't see the spaces issue ), done... and its still called "Retail Kernel -A -B", Okay, delete the retail kernel, re-add it... and its still "Retail Kernel -A -B"... oh dear ... ummm... Okay, I added "X2 4981.06" and assigned "B" to that "X2 4981.06 -B" and then retail becomes "Retail Kernel -A", then I deleted "X2 4981.06 -B" and everything seems right

* Still would like "Change Item LED colour" from launch menu, or something

* Perhaps offer to backup the EEPROM when none is backed up? "You do not have a backed up EEPROM, would you like to backup your EEPROM now?"

* a Disk Tools->Drive Info option would be a very handy feature, ie able to see the DVD and Hard Disk model numbers, manufacturers, and size, like in XOS1.1

* You can't back out of many dialogs. For example, when you go into the Video Standard menu, and get to the "NTSC or PAL" dialog, you can't press B to get back, you have to pick one.

* There are a number of people who are accidentally setting there video to the wrong mode, I was thinking an emergency option, like holding left+right+LS+RS could bring up an emergency video mode selection thingy, would you then can push D-LEFT for NTSC or D-RIGHT for PAL would be useful... something like that

* Xbox Live Formatter bug? what's the actual situation? Do people who formatted/upgraded with XOS2beta1 or PR have to still perform the fix? if they re-upgrade will that fix it? what's the situation... thankyou

* Reboot. I chose reboot and the XOS displayed in b&w? weird... rebooted again and it was blue/grey again

* InstantBoot seems to override QuickBoot, fair enough, but its not obvious from the menu. I'm thinking a better system would be "Boot Mode" and that lets you choose "Instant Boot, Quick Boot, or Xenium OS", well I suppose it doesn't matter . I'll only care once I have XBox Live, but when I do I will probbaly

* Can we have an advanced option to lock down the menus? basically LS into Xenium Settings and then choose "Launch List" and the only thing that happens after that is XOS boots straight into a launch list, no extra items, no delete, no tools, NOTHING. To get back you can boot with LS held down and then you can go into the Settings and choose "Normal menus" again... or something. My main desire is to be able to have a launch list with Xbox Live, XBMC and Normal or something which can then be made 100% fool-proof. Until then its back to instant boot

* Network Settings, Oh look, it got a Dynamic IP , it didn't seem to get the Gateway automatically from the DHCP server though (still said 192.168.0.something), where as my gateway is 10.0.1.1, same with DNS... I think. Anyway, I use a static IP

* After changing to static IP and choosing "Restart Network" it seemed to take a helluva long time... In XOS2beta1 it used to say "Restarting Network Failed". Okay, after about a minute it did actually restart! (or so it says )

* FTP default settings are great

*Same with Telnet settings (looking forward to testing this)

* SMB Server, "Currently the SMB Server does not work with a static IP. Please change your network settings to use a dynamic IP first" , I use a static IP so I *know* what IP my box has. I've still never been able to test this feature , its not biggy as I instant boot into Avalaunch anyway, but I would like to check out the feature one day...

* Restore Factory Defaults. V Nice (although I didn't test )

* Recovery... I'm not going to test again, but from memory, I think it doesn't have a confirmation. I think it should.

* FTP server, still causes Fetch on OSX to flip out when it views "/", the problem it gets is that it interprets the root directory as containing files with names like "drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  C", so there's probably something wrong with the formatting of that list... ie its not exactly right like how a UNIX box does it or something

Here are a bunch of transcripts to hopefully help with the problem, which I think is now the major problem with XOS2 (assuming the clock and xbox live bugs are fixed)

CODE

Connecting to 10.0.1.220 port 21 (24/8/04 3:08:44 PM) 220  XeniumOS FTP Server ready. Type HELP for help ADAT 500 Syntax error, command unrecognized or malformed USER xbox 331 User name okay, need password. PASS 230 User logged in, proceed. SYST 215 XeniumOS Type: 4.0 PWD 257 "\" is current directory. MACB ENABLE 500 Syntax error, command unrecognized or malformed PWD 257 "\" is current directory. PWD 257 "\" is current directory. PORT 10,0,1,200,231,249 200 Command okay. NLST 150 File status okay; about to open data connection. drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  C drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  E drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  F drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  X drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  Y drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  Z 226 Closing data connection. Transfer succeeded CWD drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  C 550 drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  C: No such file or directory TYPE I 200 Command okay. SIZE drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  C 550 Requested action not taken. Open error MDTM drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  C 500 Syntax error, command unrecognized or malformed PORT 10,0,1,200,177,229 200 Command okay. RETR drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  C 550 drwx--x--x   1 root     root           0 Jan 02 2002  C: No such file or directory ftp_retrieve: -30000 (state == GET_RETRIEVING)

if I ask Fetch to change to "/c" then it seems to work fine

CODE

PWD 257 "\" is current directory. CWD /c 250 Requested file action okay, completed. PWD 257 "\c" is current directory. TYPE A 200 Command okay. PORT 10,0,1,200,104,70 200 Command okay. NLST 150 File status okay; about to open data connection. xodash xboxdash.xbe Xbox.xtf XBox Book.xtf [...] evoxdash.xbe evox.ini bios avalaunch.xml avalaunch.xbe 226 Closing data connection. Transfer succeeded CWD avalaunch.xml 550 avalaunch.xml: No such file or directory TYPE I 200 Command okay. SIZE avalaunch.xml 213 10090 MDTM avalaunch.xml 500 Syntax error, command unrecognized or malformed PORT 10,0,1,200,236,70 200 Command okay. RETR avalaunch.xml 150 File status okay; about to open data connection. 226 Closing data connection. Transfer succeeded Download completed at 24/8/04 3:10:52 PM (state == GET_RETRIEVING)

I notice that Fetch doesn't seem to be able to determine the correct type for files and folders they appear as "?" files, also the back up one directory functions etc break with XOS ftpd.

This is a successful transcript from Avalaunch ftpd, with "ls -al for UNIX systems" disabled

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220 The Avalaunch FTP system -- enter user name USER xbox 331 Password required for xbox PASS 230 user xbox logged in. SYST 215 UNIX emulation by Avalaunch 0.47.5 PWD 257 "/" is current directory. MACB ENABLE 502 Command not implemented, superfluous at this site. PWD 257 "/" is current directory. PWD 257 "/" is current directory. CWD / 250 CWD command successful. PWD 257 "/" is current directory. PORT 10,0,1,200,112,72 200 Connected to port LIST 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 C: ( 303 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 D: ( DVD : Empty ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 E: ( 4504 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 F: ( 93008 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 X: ( 682 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 Y: ( 749 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 Z: ( 748 MB free ) 226 Transfer complete.

Fetch successfully parses the listing to read the user, group, date, name and privs.

Notice the "UNIX*" string that Ava passes back in response to SYST

This is with "ls -al" enabled

CODE

Connecting to 10.0.1.220 port 21 (24/8/04 3:24:14 PM) 220 The Avalaunch FTP system -- enter user name USER xbox 331 Password required for xbox PASS 230 user xbox logged in. SYST 215 UNIX emulation by Avalaunch 0.47.5 PWD 257 "/" is current directory. MACB ENABLE 502 Command not implemented, superfluous at this site. PWD 257 "/" is current directory. PWD 257 "/" is current directory. PORT 10,0,1,200,179,84 200 Connected to port LIST -al 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 C: ( 303 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 D: ( DVD : Empty ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 E: ( 4504 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 F: ( 93008 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 X: ( 682 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 Y: ( 749 MB free ) drw-rw-rw-   1 user     group           0 Jan 01 00:00 Z: ( 748 MB free ) 226 Transfer complete.

again, parsed correct for Ava ftpd, but not for XOS ftpd

[Gumba]

QUOTE (Smasher9a @ Aug 24 2004, 07:03 AM)

nah mate thats not it before the OS update you could really see the diffrent colours in the LED's. I have been testing and i can set the Retail Kernal to ANY colour and that works fine just no any other bios. I think it may be a bug i am not 100% sure though.

I set my second BIOS to blue and that works fine.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (Smasher9a @ Aug 24 2004, 06:11 AM)

hmm i seem to have another problem lol This one i have never encounted before, i set it too boot up with EvoX M8 with an 'Amber' LED colour and it boots with the green one, i tried every colour and all i get is green lol. Any ideas? btw i diddnt spell colour wrong thats how you spell it in Australia

Yah, but you spelt "didn't" wrong

I found that Amber didn't work right on my Xternal LED with XOS2beta1, but red, green and blue work fine. Amber works fine on the actual ICE though

The Amber looked green... but if I looked closely I could see a small spot of Red, I thought perhaps I'd blown the red part of the LED, but the normal Red works fine...

I do have the LED dimmed though.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (Smasher9a @ Aug 24 2004, 07:39 AM)

DAM! you write lots lol Anyway what you were saying about it automaticly putting -A -B -X infront of boot items is easily removable, add the item you want then add it again with the same name (dont put the -A -B -X). When it appears on the list is wont have any extensions to the name then simple delete the one with the extentions and your done. Since you been doing some testing do u have a solution for my problem above?

Yeah, see the post above yours

http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=1744138

[Gumba]

QUOTE

*Same with Telnet settings (looking forward to testing this)

Okay, gave it a quick test

logging in works fine

help doesn't tell you about "cp" or "ls"

cd, ls, cp, help, reboot all seem to work... interesting

../../ type paths work

/ seems to be C:

cp doesn't seem to work right though, it partially works sometimes I think

rm doesn't seem to exist.

mkdir doesn't exist either

nor mv

I couldn't work out how to get the "controller emulation" thing to work?

anywho, if you're going to turn this into a rough unix shell, that'd be pretty cool

[Artifex]

QUOTE (Gumba @ Aug 24 2004, 08:30 AM)

I couldn't work out how to get the "controller emulation" thing to work? anywho, if you're going to turn this into a rough unix shell, that'd be pretty cool

Yes, that's the eventual idea.

And, yes, it's pretty rough around the edges right now.... it's received very little of our focus.  Glad to see at least one user hyped about it, though.

And, yes, the help command is incomplete.

Here's a full list of commands for you.  Just threw this together quickly, please excuse any mistakes...

quit   - logs out of telnet
help  - displays incomplete list of commands
cd - change directory
ls - directory list
launch -
reboot - reboots
pwd - prints the current directory
cp - copy file
copy - copy file
mv - move file
ui launch - re-launches the UI
gamepad hat up - up on dpad
gamepad hat down - down on dpad
gamepad hat left - left on dpad
gamepad hat right - right on dpad
gamepad hat center - center dpad
gamepad button down a - press A down
gamepad button up a - release A
gamepad button down b - press B down
gamepad button up b - release B
(and so forth for x, y, white, black, start, back, lthumb, rthumb, ltrig, rtrig)

Have fun!

Also, thank you for your comments on the new beta, it's much appreciated.  You've added at least 1 or 2 things to my todo list.  

--Arti

[appleguru]

Yay for telnet

/me is looking forward to using this too

QUOTE (Gumba)

* InstantBoot seems to override QuickBoot, fair enough, but its not obvious from the menu. I'm thinking a better system would be "Boot Mode" and that lets you choose "Instant Boot, Quick Boot, or Xenium OS", well I suppose it doesn't matter . I'll only care once I have XBox Live, but when I do I will probbaly

You can use both Instant boot and Quickboot at the same time... Just be sure to turn both on Powering on via the powerbutton will instantboot to your default BIOS, powering via eject while holding down your assigned QuickBoot button will boot to that BIOS.

[gamehack]

new background is a definate improvement,  so is the news(there was only news and no crap about other mod teams, yay).  has anyone confirmed that that hdd upgrade now works fine with live?  at least they look to be taking steps in the right direction.  maybe sending the other team back to the land of Oz is what was needed

[Gumba]

QUOTE (appleguru @ Aug 24 2004, 01:22 PM)

QUOTE (Gumba) * InstantBoot seems to override QuickBoot, fair enough, but its not obvious from the menu. I'm thinking a better system would be "Boot Mode" and that lets you choose "Instant Boot, Quick Boot, or Xenium OS", well I suppose it doesn't matter . I'll only care once I have XBox Live, but when I do I will probbaly You can use both Instant boot and Quickboot at the same time... Just be sure to turn both on Powering on via the powerbutton will instantboot to your default BIOS, powering via eject while holding down your assigned QuickBoot button will boot to that BIOS.

Oh, Cool, that makes sense

I still think "Launch List" would be a useful option