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[Gareth2061]

Do you pronounce is solder or soder? well?

[inacst]

sounds like 2nd, spells like 1st

[Gareth2061]

thats so stupid

[silentsnake]

knife

[Gareth2061]

Cuz i am english and we pronounce it with the l. Its from the latin solidare.It means solid and you dont leave the l out of that do you? colonel is a french word

[Gareth2061]

Could you say that a little clearer please. If you were being sarcastic it is hard to tell.

[AmO]

i think what gareth is trying to say is that the word colonel is a word of french origin and may also be a current word in the french dictionary.  That doesnt mean english doesnt use it as well, english, or at least the modern english we speak today is a relativly new language which is a MAJOR mix of many different european languages, if you look at the likes of Old English, the root of modern english it sounds more german and we today couldnt understand most of it, its just the evolution of language.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (AmO @ Aug 3 2004, 08:30 AM)

i think what gareth is trying to say is that the word colonel is a word of french origin and may also be a current word in the french dictionary.  That doesnt mean english doesnt use it as well, english, or at least the modern english we speak today is a relativly new language which is a MAJOR mix of many different european languages, if you look at the likes of Old English, the root of modern english it sounds more german and we today couldnt understand most of it, its just the evolution of language.

I pronounce solder as "sol-duh"

this is also how it is pronounced in my country.

If you choose to pronounce it like "soda" that's your business

[Oldmanjoe]

[Gumba]

QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 3 2004, 09:53 AM)

It's saw-dur. How could it be sol-duh? Used in a sentence "I want to get a sol-duh-less modchip."

no, you pronounce it saw-dur

you probably pronounce a lot of other words differently to other places too

for instance

Al-loo-min-eeee-umm

I wasn't asking if I was correct, I was stating a fact. "Solder is pronounced sol-duh HERE." I don't see how you're qualified to tell me its not.

personally I can't imagine how someone could pronounce "sol" as "saw"

saw-ger?
saw-lid?
saw-stiss?
saw-lo?
saw-lil-li-quiy?
saw-loo-shin?

well, maybe i can imagine it in america
..

now there seem to be two syllables (by my count, I'm sure some europeans would use 3) in solder

I pronounce the first syllable as "sol" as in the name of our sun, as in Solar System, and the second as "duh" ie shorter than "dur"

the important part as it relates to this discussion is that the "l" is NOT silent, at least *here*

Isn't pronunciation fun

PS: I have an Australian accent

[Oldmanjoe]

[locutus of worm]

lol

[africamagical]

i deal with living with an english teacher, Its pronounced Saw-der
spelled solder

[Gumba]

QUOTE (africamagical @ Aug 3 2004, 01:51 PM)

i deal with living with an english teacher, Its pronounced Saw-der spelled solder

That's funny

Merriam-Webster has this to say about "sawder"

"\Saw"der\, n. A corrupt spelling and pronunciation of solder"

sawder (according to m-w) is a corrupt pronunciation of solder.

Anywho, as far as I can tell, based on the M-W (an American dictionary), its pronounced "sodder"

sod - like pod

Now, if you check the Macquarie dictionary (reference to Australian English), then its pronounced

solduh

sol as in solemn

and duh...

uh = a in apart,

Moving right along...

Collins English (English as in Great Britain , sorry I've misplaced my OED)

That's a fun one, 3 alternate pronunciations

1) soel-der, soe as in sew (British pronunciation?)

or

2) sol-der as in solemn   (ie Australian pronunciation)

or

3) sodder as in sod (ie American pronunciation)

Collins doesn't bother explaining how to pronounce "der"


I wish I could  find my Oxford dictionary

[TimCo1980]