Topic: Act --> Anti Clone Technology For Xenium (Read 720 times)

EmperorPsiblade · « **Reply #75 on:** April 20, 2004, 02:48:00 PM »

lets have some trust in OzXodus.... they will not fail us....

"Everytime you buy a clone, Artifex kills a kitten"

my new favorite saying because i made it up
heh heh heh

moobar · « **Reply #76 on:** April 20, 2004, 02:58:00 PM »

SigTom: Had they said anything specifically? No, not that Ive seen. They do not state any guarantee or warranty anywhere, but I havent looked very hard.

The thing is they have not even released the OS yet so we have nothing to go on. It is a fact they have stated the prior use of ACT and also stated ACT will be new and improved in the latest OS. Thats all we have to go on for the moment. Whether they release more info or guarantees on ACT remains to be seen.

I for one do not usually install "release-day" software or firmware. Heck im still using X4981.

Am I worried about ACT? No
Will I be bummed if ACT misbehaves on my Xeniums? Yes
Will I be loyal to them if I cannot rectify the problem? No
Will I have a small smirk on my face when I hear of the downfall of the clones? Yes

But really, any developer trying to implement any kind of anti-whatever technology should take every precaution. If they feel confident in it they'll release it. If not and all goes to h3ll, they just cut their own throats.

Exobex · « **Reply #77 on:** April 20, 2004, 03:19:00 PM »

EmperorPsiblade · « **Reply #78 on:** April 20, 2004, 03:25:00 PM »

mike96sc2 · « **Reply #79 on:** April 20, 2004, 03:51:00 PM »

My thoughts are when MS finds a pirated copy of Windows XP they just disable the ability to upgrade to their new service packs or ability to download updates. I think this is a great strategy because if you're a pirate or whatever you know why your PC doesn't work, but if you bought your PC from the local shop and it says your software is pirated, you know who to come back against. Now if MS took the same action as OzX is then they'd just remove Windows XP from your hard drive. Technically your PC is still there and it's still the hardware you purchased, how many people would go ballistic claiming MS ruined their PC. This is no different than the law congress was considering claiming they would allow the RIAA and MPAA to destroy your pc if you didn't delete mp3's or movies off your hard drive.

Now if OzX wanted to really do something I suggest going with the giving the customer fair warning repeatedly their chip is a clone or whatever but allowing them to use a stripped down version or whatever of the XOS. Better yet why not skip the chip making process and license the whole deal to cloners, apparently they can do comparable for cheaper so why not let them deal with manufacturing and selling and marketing and whatever else when you can sit back and rake in the money for nothing.

Finally, there's no surefire way to beat the cloners, I definately see unofficial XOS updates on clone web sites in the future w/o the chip disabling technology.

HSDEMONZ · « **Reply #80 on:** April 20, 2004, 07:03:00 PM »

Shame. I'm sure you'll enjoy your chip nevertheless. Both are great.

marksu · « **Reply #81 on:** April 20, 2004, 11:05:00 PM »

EmperorPsiblade · « **Reply #82 on:** April 21, 2004, 01:10:00 AM »

heinrich · « **Reply #83 on:** April 21, 2004, 05:52:00 AM »

marksu · « **Reply #84 on:** April 21, 2004, 06:01:00 AM »

heinrich · « **Reply #85 on:** April 21, 2004, 07:03:00 AM »

HSDEMONZ · « **Reply #86 on:** April 21, 2004, 07:37:00 AM »

I would prefer a method of ACT.. that would display THIS IS A CLONE for a period of time.. then kills the chip. But that's just me.

marksu · « **Reply #87 on:** April 21, 2004, 09:10:00 AM »

Sounds to me like the only bullet proof method to prevent cloners to crack the ACT is to have ACT remove OS totally. As long as mod has OS and can play unsigned code it can be cracked. That is the point I am aiming at.

Any succestion how else to prevent cracking ACT?

Soup · « **Reply #88 on:** April 21, 2004, 09:32:00 AM »

sha · « **Reply #89 on:** April 21, 2004, 09:55:00 AM »

People are already buying different chips because of all this bad hype. Lets hope this stunt does not drop their sales and shut OzXodus out if the chip market. I knew this was going to happen people are scared to buy now. This does not promote sales.

Just release the ACT and kill some chips. Get it over with. Now that I think about it may be a good thing, who needs happy customers. If any people have trouble they will flood the OzXodus site and cause more grief on support costs. I for one will be calling them if my chip does not work. Nothing is 100 percent effective so I hope they QA this with at least 1000 chips before they plan the rollout. They may need a call center for this because allot of people will be contacting them.

The question is how many clones are out there?

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