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QUOTE (lookformeb @ Apr 15 2004, 11:58 PM)

So you must be a Xenium fanboy, right?  Explain to me why anyone who stands by a product or choses to use it, becomes a "fanboy"?  I bet you're one of those bastard Windows fanboys... well, you're cramping up the scene...

Hey,

( Not flaming btw   )

Sure i'm a Xenium fan, but the thing is, I diddn't run into your Xecutor forums complaining about your news update..
After all, this is the Xenium forums.. So the fans are likly to be here, aren't they?

P.S Again not flaming, just stating my point of view

[Xbox-Gear]

Ok Guys - Enough is enough , with the usual fan boys adding their 2 cents based on wishful thinking , let's all just sit down and take a look at why exactly this OzXodus has created so much 'controversy' .

[lookformeb]

(/me isn't flaming either)

I have the right, to participate in any forum I please, as does anyone else here (taking note that rules are obeyed).

Just because I don't use a Xenium on a dainly basis, does not make anyone more "deserving" to participate in any forum over another.

I use Xecuter on a daily basis, both BIOS and CHIP... therefore, I spend a good deal of my time there.  So what?

Look at my first post... I wasn't complaining.  Either way, would there be a batter place to discuss news feeds than the forum which it relates to??  If a thread begins in one forum, people are SUPPOSED to follow the rules and not post another elsewhere.

The whole "fanboy" shit is very old... find me some good deals on Xenium chips (I've looked and yet to find) and I'll install those too.  Then I can become your fanboy too...

[PM5K]

It's not uncommon for companies to make announcements based on the announcements of their competitors, look at ATI and Nvidia, when the 9800 Pro was released and was all the rage very shortly thereafter Nvidia started talking about their next generation product.

As I said that's not uncommon and I think that's fine, but ragging on your competitors is simply childish.

I don't consider myself biased torwards OzXodus, in fact I think the Xenium is a nice chip, I especially like the LCD output, however I am not in the market for a new next generation chip.

It's very similar and along the lines of political campaigns where one candidate tries his best to trash his opponent rather than tell us what his good points are.

[EmperorPsiblade]

QUOTE (lookformeb @ Apr 15 2004, 06:09 PM)

I use Xecuter on a daily basis, both BIOS and CHIP...

Get out of here.....    just kidding  

don't you have to go work on Craxtion lookformeb?  

[Psilocybe]

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trust psilocybe to jump into the ozxodus forums section and start flaming, where is his xecuter-fanboy buddy Sniperkilla? i'm suprised he aint in here doin the same like he always does.

i have no clue who sniperkilla is, i've seen the name around, but i don't know where, yet i do know i've talked to him

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so judging by what we are hearing does this mean that the v2.0 of xeniumos will take the xenium into the 5th generation. x3 5th generation, rofl. let us see the mod come out in 2004 before we even start putting tags on it. hmm, i thought it was going to be available for purchase two weeks after the features were announced. i'm glad i gave up waiting for it and bought the xenium.

how about we call the xenium a 6th or 7th generation chip?
it has its roots from pcbioxx, nitroxx, matrix, (a few others i can't think of right nwo), and smartxx, then when you add in the background of the other team that joined on with xodus team Oz or whatever you have the rest of the cheapmod family of chips, so really the xenium could be like a 10th gen chip.  but what does this matter?  team ozx was the first to say, "we are bringing this to a whole new level with this 3rd generation chip", now i suppose taemX has the right to say they are bringing in a new level, the 4th gen, if that's how they choose to state it.  Anyway a number is a number

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Sure i'm a Xenium fan, but the thing is, I diddn't run into your Xecutor forums complaining about your news update.. After all, this is the Xenium forums.. So the fans are likly to be here, aren't they?

this isn't the official OzX forums is it?  it's just the xbox-scene ozX section.  it would be different if people were going into the official ozx forums.  actually i don't know if they have an official forum or not, so i'm sorry if this is the official one, but on that same note, if this is their official forums maybe they should get their own if they don't want people to state their opinions, then they could dictate it themselves.

[EmperorPsiblade]

OzXodus has their own forums on OzXodus.com

[Morglum]

QUOTE (Psilocybe @ Apr 15 2004, 11:48 PM)

how about we call the xenium a 6th or 7th generation chip? it has its roots from pcbioxx, nitroxx, matrix, (a few others i can't think of right nwo), and smartxx.

Are you a complete smacktard or what? The only thing smartxx and xenium have in common is that the os they both use has common roots. The actual chip designs are differant, nothing was stolen  

You really need to go read and stop posting stuff that shows your ignorance and how uninformed you are. That post and the post you made on the first place prove you know nothing. When the groups split they both had a copy of the os code, which rightfully belonged to both. Not familiar with the word TEAM?    Yeah didnt think so, you're the guy no one picked for sports in school eh? All this "stolen code" business is getting old, that all you can come up with  

All you flamer kiddies need to grow the hell up, this is all getting old and boring, no wonder the scene is going down the pan with the likes of you around. It never used to be this bad, now its just childish bullcrap on a daily basis. Atleast there are decent alternatives around for when this place bites the dust, dragged down by all this shit. <banned site> anyone?  

[Psilocybe]

QUOTE (Morglum @ Apr 16 2004, 01:10 AM)

Are you a complete smacktard or what? The only thing smartxx and xenium have in common is that the os they both use has common roots. The actual chip designs are differant, nothing was stolen  You really need to go read and stop posting stuff that shows your ignorance and how uninformed you are. That post and the post you made on the first place prove you know nothing. When the groups split they both had a copy of the os code, which rightfully belonged to both. Not familiar with the word TEAM?    Yeah didnt think so, you're the guy no one picked for sports in school eh? All this "stolen code" business is getting old, that all you can come up with  All you flamer kiddies need to grow the hell up, this is all getting old and boring, no wonder the scene is going down the pan with the likes of you around. It never used to be this bad, now its just childish bullcrap on a daily basis. Atleast there are decent alternatives around for when this place bites the dust, dragged down by all this shit. <banned site> anyone?

i'm sorry, perhaps you are the one who needs to do some reading
i was around when the first lpc mods came out.  i'm sorry i don't remember the exact liniage of the pcbioxx chip
it's common knowledge that the chip design itself was based off early designs of what is now the smartXX


*edit*
http://teamxecuter.c...ewtopic&t=12169
see the real team keeps it in their own forums, they aren't comming here to try and bash nor are they going to the official forums

[Artifex]

QUOTE (lookformeb @ Apr 15 2004, 11:58 PM)

You do realize the X3 takes advantage of the ENTIRE LPC, right?  Well, it's not just used for shits and giggles...

Actually...  All modchips "take advantage" of the "entire lpc."  If they didn't, they wouldn't be able to function.

Google for "Intel Low Pin Count Specification"

Read the spec.

Seriously... it's short, it's an interesting read, and you'll walk away knowing lots of fun stuff about the LPC that you probably didn't before.

I think what you meant to say... is that the X3 takes advantage of both the LPC and I2C busses.  Whether this is a good thing, or a pointless thing, remains to be seen.

Personally, I'm leaning towards the latter, as the I2C bus is a very simple serial line, much like the SPI ports on the Xenium.  It's relativly slow, multiplexed to several devices, somewhat difficult to work with, and not designed for transferring large amounts of data. (Likewise, google for "Philips I2C Bus Specification."  Not AS interesting a read, but still informative.)

In the end... a bus is a bus.  They're both just a means of communicating data.

There's nothing you can do over the I2C bus that you cant do just as well (or better) over the LPC bus.

I've been saying this over and over since X3 was first announced....  before OzXodus and the Xenium were even conceptualized...

But... I digress....

--Arti

[Psilocybe]

i've noticed that people have gotten that confused based on the way it's been worded (the full lpc thing)
anyway
i2c may be where they are working with the IR reciever and such

[lookformeb]

QUOTE (Artifex @ Apr 15 2004, 10:41 PM)

I think what you meant to say... is that the X3 takes advantage of both the LPC and I2C busses.  Whether this is a good thing, or a pointless thing, remains to be seen.

Pardon me... yes, thats is what I meant to say.