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[dietrite]

why didn't you follow one of the links on the ozxodus page, and get one from divineo or modwhiz.com??? no 1 would receive fake xenium's if they followed the official resellers posted on ozxodus's site.    

[dietrite]

well..i sympathize with you, as i ordered final fantasy xi and NEVER RECIEVED IT!! *sniff* but i purchased my xenium from modwhiz.com and they have excellent service. nothing but genuine xeniums. go ahead and toss that other chip in some dip.

[PoiDog]

Thanks for the support and recomendations guys,  good news I think, won't be doing business with Modchips.CA, they're on my list now. Cancelled payment on the CC. They haven't responded to my e-mails yet, Love those Canadians but I went with the first set of advice from "dietrite" there and checked out some legit distributers on OzXodus's site: Went with ModchipMan.com, looks better and got the correct form for paypal when I went to finish my transaction on the site, I should get the new Xenium (A real Xenium), har har! by friday, wish me luck fellas, glad i didn't buy my install tools yet heh. I couldn't wait Gots to Mod!

[Xbox-Gear]

I was incredibly disappointed to see such a dealer feeling the need to exploit the public in such a manner. Clones are wrong , less money returns to the original developers and as a result less research and development occurs from the teams.

Anyone who bought a 'fake' which was advertised as an original Xenium , should protest and recieve a refund as you have been a subject of fraud. Contact the payment processor for more informatio and what you can do to resolve this and for justice to be served.

The idea of buying a clone may seem tempting , but why if the clones are good quality or even better then the original do resellers feel the need to not state this with pride , instead they prefer to decieve the general public.

How can www.teamxecuter.com place a site such as www.modchip.ca in their selected few respected where to buy links    . I sincerly hope no Xecuter fakes are being sold either!

Always checkout your store before purchasing , alot are here to make a quick buck as fast as possible and will cut corners and overlook your consumer rights as a result!

[swolsten]

Well said Xbox-Gear.

www.modchip.ca sell the clones for $55.17
www.xbox-gear.com sell the Offical chips for 58.95 USD
(prices correct at time of post)

I would rather pay the extra $3.78 and give some hard earned profit to the guys that had all the long nights doing all the development and testing.

How can Xecuter have modchip.ca in there where to buy list of selected retailers is beyond me, they should support the competition as it makes the scene better for everyone

What would people say if i downloaded the Xecuter2 bios, replaced the XECUTER2 text and added my own and took the credit for it, there would be an uproar.

Come one people, give the credit to the designers and not the theif that stole their work.

[Corspegrinder99]

lol glad they got shut down.

i got my Xenium from modchipman. great service and fast shipping.

will Xbox-Gear be selling Xecuter 3s? if so that will be were i will get mine when it comes.

[dava_bran]

i probably just havent read enough, i know modchip.ca was selling fakes. my question is how did someone find out they were fakes or what did they notice?  I personally like my shit real and authentic so i dont support fakes.  but if they still worked fine how did they discover the fakes? im just curious. anyways im a xecutor chip fan myself.

[Xeero]

As posted on the main page: http://www.xbox-scen...yZkGiXPifKE.php

It was probably a combination of modchip.ca customers reporting/complaining to OzXodus and OzXodus noticing that they shipped, say, 10 Xeniums to modchips.ca and modchip.ca reported that they'd sold, say, 20 Xeniums.  

[HSDEMONZ]

QUOTE (KevinB2001 @ Mar 25 2004, 12:02 AM)

I think it's somewhat immature of xenium to single them out like that and lay the blame so one-sided like that.

I'm sure if someone was destroying your name.. or the name of your product.. by knowingly selling fake products in your name.. and abusing the privilege or being an official reseller... you would be upset too.

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I have purchased a magic3 and xecuter2.0 from these guys and both products were 100%real and they have always carried official magic and xecuter products, which is why xecuter puts them on their coveted list of respected sites, and i know that they would never have sold any product if they had tested them and found them to be faulty

Which is nice and dandy for those other products.. but has nothing to do with that what htey did by knowingly purchasing chips from outside the offocial sources.  They Knew full well that by going outside.. that they'd be getting fakes.  And since you brought up Xecuter.. that makes MODCHIP.CA doubly guilty.. since the XMAS X2 Fake situation.. that made MODCHIP.CA all the more aware that official Chips come from official sources.  

They're story holds now water.  They had 3 choices if they felt that OZXodus was giving them the run-around...

1 - Deal with OZxodus apporved system and buy Official and deal with OZXodus knowing they were getting the REAL DEAL.

2 - Say fuck OZXodus.. and get their clones cheaper.. sell them as official.. and stick it to OzXodus.

3 - Don't do 1, or 2, and simply not Attempt to seel XENIUm.. real or fake.

ADMIN EDIT: They chose 2. Actions speak louder than words.. and their actions spoke volumes.  They sidestepped Xenium.. likley paying a fraction for their defective chips from the cloner.. and what is worse.. since the clone are SO cheap to make.. ripped off the purchasing public as well.

...a few buck less.. for a chip that costs half as much to make.  It fraud and robbery on so many levels.

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I also know these guys personally and they are extremely dedicated to doing top-notch work which i have personally witnessed, they do high quality work and do it fast, they have good customer support

Well.. as long as you are giving us your UNBIASED opinion....

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should that all be ruined by one mistake, odds are they didn't even know they were buying clones.

Odds are??? You buy officiall.. or you don't. Simple. If nothing else.. they abused the official reseeler priv.  It also sounds like you don't know them.. or you are easily confused.

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an honest mistake because they had so much trouble getting them direct from xenium ppl

We heard the same claims in the X2 fakes scandal.. and the results were the same. Shops knew that by not buying from official sources.. they'd be getting unoffical chips. (IE clones/fakes)

The results.. 4 shops had their names destroyed.. 2 for producing them.. the other 2 for selling them.. lying about sources for a period of time.. then eventually coming clean in the hope it would set the issue to rest.

Bottom line.. They sold clones at full price.. when they are cheaper to produce than the real ones.. and commited a hge fraud on the buying public.  Someone rips me off.. they don't deserve a second chance.  What's worse.. being Canadian.. I have directed Canadians in the past to deal with them.

I assure you.. I will direct not one more single Canadian to deal with that outfit.  Feel free to vouch for them. It's clear you aren't Biased.

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what i'm trying to say is don't be so quick to judge these guys, these guys have a good reputation and a dedication to quality they worry more about the quality of their work than making a buck, this doesn't discourage me in any way from buying from them, and as in the past i will give all my business to them exclusively because i know they do some of the best work around sorry for the long post but these guys are worth sticking up for  so everybody just chill and

Something comes to mind after reading that crap..

"Fool me once.. shame on you.. fool me twice, shame on me."

I think the public has been fooled once by MODCHIP.CA

Anyone dumb enough to go into those waters again.. deserves to get bitten.

[HSDEMONZ]

QUOTE (dava_bran @ Mar 25 2004, 12:03 AM)

i probably just havent read enough, i know modchip.ca was selling fakes. my question is how did someone find out they were fakes or what did they notice?  I personally like my shit real and authentic so i dont support fakes.  but if they still worked fine how did they discover the fakes? im just curious. anyways im a xecutor chip fan myself.

Many FAKES did not work "fine"

Mine didn't.

ADMIN EDIT: Allow me to clarify.. the fakes I received.. did not work as advertised.  They were sold as Xeniums. They clearly aren't.  They were supposed to Function.. they don't.

FRAUD = FRAUD = FRAUD.


Also.. the fakes stand out when compared to the real deal.

[HSDEMONZ]

[kevhonda]

Glad to see modchip.ca go down their service sucks!! took over a month to ship me out a chip. MODCHIPMAN.COM ALL THE WAY!!

[HSDEMONZ]

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After sending large payment for large oder of Xenium chips and promissed the chips and a banner on xenium main website within 2 days nothing happened. They kept our payment and shipped nothing and did not reply to our emails or phone calls. Finally after almost 2 weeks of contacting different team members, they finally shipped the goods, but still no banner as promissed simply because they also sell directly to the public from another site in Canada. We are tired of their immature and childish tactics and were very bemused by their crappy business practices - they were obviously new to running any kind of business

This is funny.

Whether OzXodus was dicking them around is irrelevant.  They made a decision to buy from a clone seller.  That was a conscious decision.  thier options were as I laid them out before.. either SELL the real Deal.. sell fakes, or sell neither.  They CHOSE to sell FAKES.. and sell them on their site as if they were REAL.. at full price.  that is FRAUD.

If I want a clone.. I expect a clone price.  Considering how cheap the clones are in quality.. and how cheap they are to produce... this is disturbing that they charged customers nearly 60 bucks US for a fake.

Now.. if they were pissed about being dicked around.. why did they not simply post about it?  Then.. it would be OzXodus that would look bad.  Funny.. how the forums here and elsewhere have no mention of this problem.  Hell.. people can always come to me.. and I can check in with people and say.. wassup! With no alleigence to any one chip maker.. I'm probably the most unbiased seller here.  All I expect.. is chips at a good price.. and chips that work so that I don't have to listen to IRATE customers.

Instead.. modchip.ca chose to sell fake chips.. taking the low road.. and ignorantly hoped they wouldn't get caught.  They assumed their customers were stupid. they also assumed that the chipmakers don't check their customers/official resellerers periodically.

Ignorance and Greed.  2 Powerful things.

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they were obviosley new to running any kind of business

Now modchip.ca shows their ignorance.. and clearly does not know or understand who OzXodus was formerly made up of.

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We then bought from another source and they tested 100% the same

At that point.. they knew EXACTLY what they were doing.  It's also clear that they DIDN'T test 100%.

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We will give a guarantee that if ANY of the chips you have sold are faulty or do not work as they should - we will give a full refund AND a working chip in return - We are THAT confident - Xenium need to grow up - We wished we had stuck with only Xecuter as they gave you full support and a professional service.

If you had stuck with only XECUTER.. and not sold clones.. people would not be upset with modchip.ca.  Instead.. modchip.ca saw the $$$, said screw Xenium, screw the customers, and went where they could make more $$$.

What is worse.. after reading the site.. they continue the FRAUD.

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If you look here.. they don't even show a picture of the CHIP they are selling.  That is an official Xenium Picture.. of an Official Xenium Chip. Theirs do not look like that.  For a picture of what theirs looks like.. check the pin threads.

So.. not only did they commit fraud before.. but now after the facts are out.. they now continue.. but not admitting fault.. by not listing the CHIP as it actually is.. a CLONE or FAKE XENIUM.  Then.. they add insult to injury.. by still trying to sell tham at full REAL XENIUM Prices.

It's listed as Still in stock.

So.. for 79.95 CDN.. I get a verified 100% working (haha.. like the ones that don't work now?) CLONE CHIP at the same cost of a REAL CHIP. Is that supposed to be a deal?  what a crock.

Exactly why would anyone be dumb enough to fall for that crap?

To top it off.. modchip.ca still show the chip from the main menu as the Chameleon PE.

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 to modchip.ca. The dumbest Clone seller yet in this scene.

[HSDEMONZ]

QUOTE (KevinB2001 @ Mar 25 2004, 01:51 AM)

people always get too heated when they argue in forums, can't stay civilized, i think part of the problem is they're not drinking canadian beer, if there's one good thing about canada it's the beer, as bad as the dollar is the beer stays good    cheers

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[Xeero]

QUOTE (HSDEMONZ @ Mar 25 2004, 12:33 AM)

They're story holds now water.  They had 3 choices if they felt that OZXodus was giving them the run-around... 1 - Deal with OZxodus apporved system and buy Official and deal with OZXodus knowing they were getting the REAL DEAL. 2 - Say fuck OZXodus.. and get their clones cheaper.. sell them as official.. and stick it to OzXodus. 3 - Don't do 1, or 2, and simply not Attempt to seel XENIUm.. real or fake. They chose 3. Actions speak louder than words.. and their actions spoke volumes.  They sidestepped Xenium.. likley paying a fraction for their defective chips from the cloner.. and what is worse.. since the clone are SO cheap to make.. ripped off the purchasing public as well.

Wait...didn't they choose "2"?