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[marksu]

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but the manufacturer says if anybody get a clone that does not work they will refund the money & supply a tested working chip, lets see ozxodus answer that one !

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Umm actually, marksu, there were multiple threads merged into one, any thread having to do with modchips.ca, and as I had made my original post in another thread and someone replied to it, I was obliged to reply to it in here as well, not start another thread. So it does apply here ya snot nosed kid.

If that is the case use quote next time.
Edit: I ment Luthor.


Well in that case:
What else could the cloners do to try to fix the bad publicity the clone mods have created cause of the many bad clone mods.

[phunzoid]

QUOTE (SigTom @ Mar 26 2004, 12:09 PM)

Im not trying to defend modchips.ca for selling fakes/clones at all....However if what they say about OzXodus not giving them a banner, taking the payment, not shipping any chips, and not replying for 2 weeks is true.....

like my ol' grand-pappy used to say: "2 wrongs don't make a right"  

[lowsodium]

Mod Chips are in essence made so people can infringe copyrights of others (Micorosft and all game vendors), so for a modchip vendor to whine and complain about copyright infringement and fraud seems to be a mute point.  It is like me complaining about robbing a bank that has counterfeit money.  YEAH the counterfeit money is wrong, but WTF? SO IS THE BANK ROBBERY!!!!!!

[lowsodium]

QUOTE (Funkster @ Mar 26 2004, 05:42 PM)

Whoa! So now you've turned this topic into an American VS Canadian debate! We are particularily proud of our modchip business (www.toka.ca)! And for the people who are believing modchips.ca's claim that Oz is hard to deal with and childish and liars is COMPLETELY false! We have been dealing with them for a bit now as Official Resellers and we have had nothing but outstanding customer service! They catered to our every need. Oh, and I don't think that you get a banner just like that, I think you either have to pay for it or earn it. Anyways, I have been following this thread for the last couple of days and I just wanted to say my piece! (And maybe get a little shameless advertising in as well ) Funkster

After the fiasco with modchips.ca, do you really think anyone will buy from you after the big fuss over BANNERS.

[SigTom]

Funkster:

You cant say that modchips.ca experience with OxZodus hasnt been like theyve prtrayed it, all you can do is speak to the experiences youve had with them.  For all you know, part of the payment modchips.ca made to OzXodus was for a banner.  So its great your company is havnig a good relationship with them, but apprently, they dont treat all resellers as well as you.  


marksu:

dont tell me how to post, Im old enough and smart enough to know how I want to post any replies I have.

[messed]

Im just surprised that there are so many people on this forum from winnipeg.

[pewpster]

Dunno if its been mentioned, but www.xoduschip.com redirects to modchip.ca.   Seems kinda shifty.

[kronium]

SigTom, I find it utterly amazing that you can believe, yet alone quote garbage that was fabricated by modchip.ca.  The bastards are lying about their products and ripping off consumers, yet you qoute their website like gospel!  Truly amazing.

[marksu]

QUOTE (kronium @ Mar 26 2004, 08:38 PM)

SigTom, I find it utterly amazing that you can believe, yet alone quote garbage that was fabricated by modchip.ca.  The bastards are lying about their products and ripping off consumers, yet you qoute their website like gospel!  Truly amazing.

Exactly!

Still what ever bad experience they may have had with Ozxodus it is no excuse for Modchip.ca to use business tactics that is considered as fraud.

[SigTom]

Well, since neither you or I were involved with the whole situation, we have to take what we are told as the truth.  OzXodus has been suspicioulsy quiet about the whole situation, except to say they were resellers, now they arent because of the fake/clones.  You really think that a company, whos business it is to make money by maintaing good relationships with their suppliers, would just hey out of the blue buy Fakes?  Not I, as I own my own business, and I know this is not the way to make money.  You enter into a contract and agreement with a party, you expect said party to comply to the terms of the contract, and when there are problems, to be quick about fixing it.  When that contract has been made void by other parties, you move to recoup your losses.  You dont leave an offical reseller standing in the dust, twidlling thier thumbs, and forget about them, as apparently OzXodus has.  Neither you nor I will ever know the real story, and Im not about to listen to a one sided argument from a childish Dev Team.  

Where did they lie in thier statement on thier site?  They said, yes we have chips from a different facotry. No where does it say this is an Official Xenium from OzXodus, in fact, except for mentioning OzXodus in the rant they posted, no where else are they mentioned or linked to.  They went on to explain WHY they had clones, not that it matters, but hey, this is ALOT more than any of us have heard from OzXodus isnt it?

Im quite happy to see the Xenium and OzXodus team has had a bit of a bad time about it all, this is what you get for starting your Marketing Blitz with childish innuendos and tactics.

[HSDEMONZ]

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Where did they lie in thier statement on thier site? They said, yes we have chips from a different facotry. No where does it say this is an Official Xenium from OzXodus, in fact, except for mentioning OzXodus in the rant they posted, no where else are they mentioned or linked to. They went on to explain WHY they had clones, not that it matters, but hey, this is ALOT more than any of us have heard from OzXodus isnt it?

Using Official Xenium Pictures, Logos, etc  alone shows they are misrepresenting the chips they sell.

Now.. if they called it the "Y" chip.. or anything but "Xenium".. and didn't use official OzXodus photography etc to proote sales of their fake chips.. then most of this issue would go way.

Course.. they won't do that.  They are still trying to cash in on the OzXodus Brand Recognition.

If they weren't trying to pass off their fake as the real deal.. they would use a new name.. and not use official OzXodus Pics and photography.

As they say.. a picture is worth a thousand words.

Modchip.ca / .us relative silence in their matter.. on top of the lies.. is a huge dis-service to their customers.. and to the scene.

If OzXodus had bad biz dealings with Modchip.ca.. Modchip.ca should have been vocal about it.. or walked away from it entirely, choosing to not sell Xenium Chips. Instead.. they made a conscious decision to be sneaky, abusing the privilege of being listed as an offiical reseller.. and buying what they clearly new to be non-authentic chips.

As an official Reseller.. they also had the responsibility of alerting OzXodus to the fact that "x" factory was selling these clones.. and were outisde the approved disctribution system.  It's very clear.. that modchip.ca has used and abused this situation to their own ends. Fortunately.. people are not gullible.. an what more important.. aren't stupid.  Chips that don't work proper.. are useless.

If you still don't see or conceed that point.. you are wasting your time and the time of anyone reading this thread.

XS does not support or condone cloners.  Additionally.. we don't support or condone posts that continue to support cloners.

Modchip.ca was caught with their hand in the cookie jar. They are a clone seller. Posts supporting them on this site will note be tolerated.  This is the only thread where posts regarding people being scammed by modchip.ca is allowed. People posting in support of modchip.ca and their clone chip efforts.. are not welcome in this thread, forum, or site.

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Im quite happy to see the Xenium and OzXodus team has had a bit of a bad time about it all, this is what you get for starting your Marketing Blitz with childish innuendos and tactics.

It's quite clear from your posts what your PRO clone / Pro Modchip.ca stance is. Carefully consider future posts in the Xenium Forum that you make. Cloners and people blatantly supporting and spamming threads with their support.. aren't welcome here.

[lowsodium]

.  I mean WTF? 4th Gen and no >137 GB support?  Hopefully this gets addressed soon.  

The real issue here is that Ozxodus offers an incredible chip that I have used in 2 XBOX's and they work flawlessly.  

Number 2, I followed their link to Divineo.com and had my Chip on the 3rd day for $66.74 (1 day to process, shipped on the second day, and delivered on the third day).  Why anyone would stray from the manufacturer's website list of credible resellers is beyond me and opens the door to fraud.

[thegame_evolution]

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It is clear that Hsdemonz and sigtom are affiliated with Ozxodus and modchips.ca respectively.

They are the only two who are bringing sense to this thread and they are the insiders? why the fuck would someone as respected around here as HSDEMONZ affiliate himself with a fake modchip seller???

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I think it is shameful that Ozxodus doesn't support HD's larger then 137 GB in their 1.1 release  . I mean WTF? 4th Gen and no >137 GB support?

I could be wrong in some form but isnt it the bios you flash on the chip that determines if you can put bigger than 137 GB??

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The real issue here is that Ozxodus offers an incredible chip that I have used in 2 XBOX's and they work flawlessly.

*sniffs* sounds like a  modchip.ca rep to me....... howdoyalikethat???

[marksu]

WHY DOES HE NOT GET THAT???  

HSDEMONZ made a very good point by saying to SigTom:

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If you still don't see or conceed that point.. you are wasting your time and the time of anyone reading this thread.

[HSDEMONZ]

QUOTE (cool_guy @ Mar 27 2004, 02:46 AM)

jesus hsdemonz, calm down.  Why is it that you are discouraging people from posting their opinions?  It's not like he is a selling the damn things. It seems you are taking this WAY to serious, even more than those who are actually loosing money over this; chill out dude.

I felt the same way when I was ripped off during the Xecuter Fakes Scandal.

This is the second time I've ended up with FAKE chips.. and seeing the PRO Clonechip cheerleaders in here is annoying.

I will tone it down some.. but the sentiment will remain.. as will the policy.