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oblox

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« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2004, 10:11:00 AM »
QUOTE (bucko @ Feb 23 2004, 07:50 PM)
Can't they create somthing other than LCD screens? I mean there good an all but I think a CMOS battery, a PS" keyboard/mouse style connections, USB 2 ports etc would be more useful and less expensive. Maybe a printer port to lol. Just do somthing else!

Every thing except for the CMOS battery (and the printer port) are pritty straight forward... wait USB printer port all done lol

Now if the Xenium could have a battery and keep it's own internal clock (to set the xbox then that would be damed useful... well to some people anyway lol
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« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2004, 11:15:00 AM »
QUOTE (oblox @ Feb 23 2004, 08:11 PM)
Now if the Xenium could have a battery and keep it's own internal clock (to set the xbox then that would be damed useful... well to some people anyway lol

The Xenium doesn't really need to. I believe most dashboards are capable of accessing an sntp server and setting the clock. You can configure evox, for example, to skip the clock check, then access a sntp server to set the clock. Presto. Clock always automatically set. No worries.
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« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2004, 12:15:00 PM »
Yes very useful if you have a net connection or a server LOL
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« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2004, 12:17:00 PM »
wink.gif  I guess sometimes I just take it for granted and assume that everyone has broadband...  laugh.gif
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« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2004, 12:53:00 PM »
QUOTE (greengiant @ Feb 23 2004, 03:12 AM)
The LCD being used on the Xenium as example is the 634 model by CrystalFontz which costs $45 USD + SHipping.

Thats pretty costly for just an LCD. They will have to come out with a SPI->Parallel converter unti for those that donot wish to spend SO much money on an lcd and can buy a cheap $10 Hitachi based LCD.

So.. whats better $$ of xenium + $45 for lcd,  or $$ of smartxx + soldering + $10 lcd

Ill leave it upto you to decide.


Also, with the smartxx, dont worry about soldering, since the pins are at the end of the board a simple connector can be made (under $1) so you dont have to solder at all. Looks like a ISA socket on a motherboard.

this is what I think too

they should add the HD44780 support so ppl could use LCD at 20$ and less

I have one on my computer, cost 12$
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« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2004, 04:25:00 PM »
QUOTE (bucko @ Feb 23 2004, 02:50 PM)
Can't they create somthing other than LCD screens? I mean there good an all but I think a CMOS battery, a PS" keyboard/mouse style connections, USB 2 ports etc would be more useful and less expensive. Maybe a printer port to lol. Just do somthing else!

CMOS BATTERY: theres a thread on this in the Hardware mods section... it's actually turning out to be pretty easy to do

PS2/serial/parallel connectors: the port the modchip plugs into is capable of handeling this when you properly use a super I/O chip. the software needs to support it too (so no you wont be able to use keyboard/mouse in your xbox games this way ever) as far as serial and parallel go that essentially what these modchips are adding when the allow LCD support... but again the software needs to support the devices. (I personally think a daughterboard with PS2, serial, and parallel ports would be awesome)

USB: the xbox already has 4 of these and if you're using actual USB devices you can always add USB hubs for more devices.

What I'd like to see: I've wanted to see LCDs in the xbox for quite some time now and it's looking to be finally happening.

Another item I'd love too see is just a simple set of I/O points: this would allow for a wide variety of add ons like LEDs controlled by something in the software or fans controlled by the software. for instance if you made an I/O device that evox supported you could do something like when the CPU temp reaches a specified point it would turn on a Red LED and boost the fan to full speed, until it went below that temp. or  you could add push buttons that could do different things
say you had 4 push buttons 1 could automatically start XBMP 1 could automatically start halo... heck maybe even make a push button with a program that checks your MP3 database on your Desktop against the collection on your Xbox and syncs up the changes. another idea would be a single button to back a game up to your HDD and then start playing it or something... with outputs from this I/o (and XBMP support) you could configure an array of LEDs controlled by the music you're playing to have a real life visual effect based on the music and not just something on the screen... there really are a lot of possibilities

with an I/O device like that it'd become even more usefull to have an LCD (espeically for audio media stuff)

then again a parallelport/serial port is essentially just an I/O port  rolleyes.gif

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« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2004, 04:27:00 PM »
QUOTE (stealth @ Feb 23 2004, 06:00 PM)
fwiw, a 16x2 crystalfontz serial is ~$30

yeah and a crystalfontz HD44780 is $9

if you get one from emi its only $4

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« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2004, 05:38:00 PM »
Erm why not just use a PS/2 to USB converter?
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« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2004, 10:29:00 PM »
I know ppl continue to reply to my original post about expensive SPI LCD, but donot read the later post i made.

I have talked to OZX ppl, and as well Arti and Cap269 have posted, a circuit to convert from the Xen SPI to the cheap Hitachi Parallel interface is very cheap to make. Only requires a HC595 chip.

It is only a matter of days before a finished design is made avaialble. Most likely it will be FREE, so anyone can make. Seing as its very simple. But Iam sure it will also be made available for sale too (Hell Id do it if ppl cant solder and want it)


Thirdly, the adapter can be used on the smartxx even if its quick soldered. Its not a big clumpy adapter, thin.
So right now both mods do the same and they are priced very similarly. It comes down to, do you want to have the extra features of the smartxx (which will be added to XEN for sure in time). And also personal preference and whcihc you can get easier. So instead of making it some sort of flaming thread, make it constructive about the Xenium and LCD.

Thats my rant for the day.
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« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2004, 10:40:00 PM »
sounds good
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« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2004, 06:13:00 AM »
I dont care about the price of the screen or the chip....

If they come out with a package deal with that screen and the chip...


I will have to buy quanity of those......


That looks AWESOME....Keep up the AWESOME work people....
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« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2004, 10:59:00 AM »
QUOTE (lip @ Feb 22 2004, 09:27 PM)
A suggestion:

Somehow make the LCD powerup/down the XBOX.

I hate M$ for not allowing the Xbox to be powered up and down with the remote.

Cheers,

LIP

Watch the new LCD video released by Xenium,  you can power down the xbox with it as long as you have the DVD remote which works the LCD screen.   Pretty trick if you ask me.  Screw the haters.  biggrin.gif
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« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2004, 11:12:00 AM »
QUOTE (psyberxian @ Feb 22 2004, 11:33 PM)
whoopie.. a LCD screen for the XBOX.. What's next a liquid cooler for the CPU and a NOS (Powershot 50) to spin up your DVD/HD faster??? LOL!

-Psyber

dude what on earth are you babbling about? There is such thing as a liquid cooling system for CPU's, and that wuold be pretty badass to have one in the xbox, and it might be possible, who knows. As for NOs, NOS is a gas, how can you relate a gas which is used for automobiles to a damn dvd drive O_o?
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« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2004, 11:58:00 AM »
Just curious, you guys think you will have to solder at all to put in an LCD? Also, do you think you would be able to turn the xbox on in addition to off with the LCD?
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« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2004, 12:09:00 PM »
QUOTE (spicymeatball911 @ Feb 24 2004, 09:58 PM)
Just curious, you guys think you will have to solder at all to put in an LCD? Also, do you think you would be able to turn the xbox on in addition to off with the LCD?

Apparently no soldering is necessary.

I doubt that you could turn the box on with the remote, I could be mistaken, but I think a physical switch is necessary to power on the XBOX.
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