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Flagg3

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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2004, 07:22:00 PM »
QUOTE (Mike117 @ Feb 22 2004, 08:45 PM)
Many of you say that it is useless and not at all necessary and that is true right now but in months when the X3 bios is released it will be big and you may not be able to fit it on your chip.

Umm, how big do you expect this new BIOS to be?  2mb????

As I have posted in many other posts, there is absolutely no reason to ever make a BIOS that is bigger than 256k, period.

What is very possible though is for the new "OS" type BIOSs that these new chips boot with to become much larger than 1mb.  The SmartXX and the X3 will both have a distinct advantage when it comes to the amount of applications that they will be able to fit into their bootup "OS's" over the somewhat limited 512k that is available to the Xenium.  

I would be very surprised if OzXodus doesn't eventually add more memory in later revisions of the chip.  

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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2004, 07:47:00 PM »
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Why? huh.gif

Because it looks cool - that's why !!! tongue.gif

Great work Team OzXodus  !!! love.gif
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« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2004, 08:40:00 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2004, 09:29:00 PM »
QUOTE (greengiant @ Feb 23 2004, 03:12 AM)
The LCD being used on the Xenium as example is the 634 model by CrystalFontz which costs $45 USD + SHipping.

Thats pretty costly for just an LCD. They will have to come out with a SPI->Parallel converter unti for those that donot wish to spend SO much money on an lcd and can buy a cheap $10 Hitachi based LCD.

So.. whats better $$ of xenium + $45 for lcd,  or $$ of smartxx + soldering + $10 lcd

Ill leave it upto you to decide.


Also, with the smartxx, dont worry about soldering, since the pins are at the end of the board a simple connector can be made (under $1) so you dont have to solder at all. Looks like a ISA socket on a motherboard.

SPI->Parallel converter is very easy..... in fact..... it's just a shift register. ;-)  Should cost you all of $1 or so to build, if you were so inclined.

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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2004, 09:52:00 PM »
wink.gif ).

supporting the HD44780 format is a great advantage over using a serial or USB format as the cost of the screen is reduced dramatically.

and for those of you wondering what good a screen is. well for me personally my xbox is connected to a projector so every so often I just want to listen to some music and it's quite a hastle to have to fire up the projector pull down the screen and dim the lights just to play some MP3s.  rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2004, 10:01:00 PM »
QUOTE (Artifex @ Feb 23 2004, 07:29 AM)
QUOTE (greengiant @ Feb 23 2004, 03:12 AM)
The LCD being used on the Xenium as example is the 634 model by CrystalFontz which costs $45 USD + SHipping.

Thats pretty costly for just an LCD. They will have to come out with a SPI->Parallel converter unti for those that donot wish to spend SO much money on an lcd and can buy a cheap $10 Hitachi based LCD.

So.. whats better $$ of xenium + $45 for lcd,  or $$ of smartxx + soldering + $10 lcd

Ill leave it upto you to decide.


Also, with the smartxx, dont worry about soldering, since the pins are at the end of the board a simple connector can be made (under $1) so you dont have to solder at all. Looks like a ISA socket on a motherboard.

SPI->Parallel converter is very easy..... in fact..... it's just a shift register. ;-)  Should cost you all of $1 or so to build, if you were so inclined.

--Arti

yes very much so, now gotta wait for info.

sinve been talking to u folks bout it, not gonna post any more info till u guys let it out.

but yes a cheap lcd can easily be hooked up to the xen.
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« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2004, 10:05:00 PM »
QUOTE (SniperKilla @ Feb 23 2004, 01:40 AM)
heh, everyone jumping on the LCD bandwagon..

i guess everyone missed it when avalaunch showed off their LCD and LCD support in avalaunch over a year ago

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I've searched the forums and the news on the X-S main site and couldn't not find anything with "avalaunch" and "LCD". I also dont ever remember seeing it. Maybe I'm just dumb but if you could post a link that'd be great.  cool.gif
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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2004, 10:34:00 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2004, 10:40:00 PM »
rolleyes.gif ) it'd be nice to get some information on how to ava LCD thing works in comparison to these new chips.
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« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2004, 11:01:00 PM »
It's tremendously easy to convert SPI ... a shift register IC and a pullup resistor ... here is a schematic.

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« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2004, 01:03:00 AM »
any chance the LCD screen  could do stuff like play NES games ? (abit like the VMU or whatever they were called on the Dreamcast) which was supposed to also be able to play games on.
And How much would it add to the cost if the LCD was in colour? (becuase that could add some serious potential as it could possibly be used as a very small monitor for those who are too poor to afford a TV. LOL.
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« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2004, 01:55:00 AM »
QUOTE (myztic_man @ Feb 23 2004, 05:03 AM)
any chance the LCD screen  could do stuff like play NES games ? (abit like the VMU or whatever they were called on the Dreamcast) which was supposed to also be able to play games on.
And How much would it add to the cost if the LCD was in colour? (becuase that could add some serious potential as it could possibly be used as a very small monitor for those who are too poor to afford a TV. LOL.

Good god man! These are character based screens so any game (i.e. snake) that you could psibly play, would look like crap. Also about using a color LCD as a "second monitor" The chips only support text based (ASCII) output to the LCDs thus, you would not be able to view graphics on the screen even if you did somehow manage to connect it to the chip without frying it. Also, it would be expensive. A TV would be cheaper. I'm out. mad.gif
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« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2004, 07:41:00 AM »
QUOTE (Corspegrinder99 @ Feb 22 2004, 09:17 PM)
QUOTE (vincenzo @ Feb 22 2004, 09:16 PM)
ehehe bye bye smart(shit)xx   biggrin.gif

yeah lol

what does the SmartXX have now that the Xenium dosent?

browser flashing & switchable IO ports via webbrowser tp cook coffee...

and...

you DON´t have to install an spi device - which smartxx also supports smile.gif

just a simple normal cheap lcd.

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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2004, 07:58:00 AM »
QUOTE (NikAmi @ Feb 23 2004, 11:55 AM)
Good god man! These are character based screens so any game (i.e. snake) that you could psibly play, would look like crap. Also about using a color LCD as a "second monitor" The chips only support text based (ASCII) output to the LCDs thus, you would not be able to view graphics on the screen even if you did somehow manage to connect it to the chip without frying it. Also, it would be expensive. A TV would be cheaper. I'm out. mad.gif

Are you dissin the ASCII art lol and the ASCII games you know they are making a comeback lol
ASCII porn LMAO jester.gif  jester.gif  jester.gif
Look at the @'s on that one
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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2004, 09:50:00 AM »
Can't they create somthing other than LCD screens? I mean there good an all but I think a CMOS battery, a PS" keyboard/mouse style connections, USB 2 ports etc would be more useful and less expensive. Maybe a printer port to lol. Just do somthing else!
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