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Tidusblitz111

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« on: February 17, 2004, 05:42:00 PM »

I installed my xenium and my box is fraggin.   Could it be due to the fact that I have a controller-S?

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Tidusblitz111

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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2004, 05:52:00 PM »

Shutup bitch-ass, the Xenium won'y boot with certain controllers.
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cap269

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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2004, 06:01:00 PM »

Yes there are trouble reports with certain controllers; BUT, the Xenium screen still comes on the TV even when those problems exist. You're not getting that far, are you? Where the Xenium screen is showing? If you aren't getting that far, something is whack on your motherboard. Did you do the ground test for the 1.5 box? If you have a 1.5 box, you need to add two more wires before it will work.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2004, 06:34:00 PM »

You will not see the Xenium screen with component cables IF you have the Focus chip.
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Tidusblitz111

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2004, 06:37:00 PM »

I am not even getting to the Xenium screen, It boots, reboots twice and flashes red and green with a Red(orange) L.E.D on the chip. I haven't done the ground test yet... but would my chip not even turn on if it was a 1.5? I thought that  the whole point of the two wires, was to supply power...

The chip has a red L.E.D If I don't do the ground test, and add two wires, will it fry the chip? and my box is hooked up to the t.v. with the original cables that came with the box. I will post pics. tomorrow. I am using the alternate d0... And I left a 1/4 inch piece of broken wire hanging out of the solder going to the d0 could this be it?
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2004, 06:43:00 PM »

Its your solder points probably on your lpc....just make sure all the holes are filled up so you get proper contact...I cant imagine it is anything else.
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Tidusblitz111

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2004, 06:45:00 PM »

Well, the points are not all exactly filled, but they seem to be making a decent connection
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2004, 06:45:00 PM »

I agree that it is probably the solder points. Reflow the solder in the holes, adding some if necessary.
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Tidusblitz111

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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2004, 06:53:00 PM »

I'll post piccys tomorrow and see what u guys think, please give me hints as a decent way to get good contact.(I am over my mom's and my box is at my dad's) can't drive....only 12

What I am doing to solder, Is am placing the pins thru the holes, putting flux paste( it says it is flux mixed with petroleum jelly) around the pin, and the hole, and I am melting the solder on my iron(15 watt) and carrying it over to the flux, and placing the hot iron with melted solder on the flux glob, and letting it flow out... If I am dong something wrong, please let me know...
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2004, 07:02:00 PM »

Well, that explains it.

You don't solder that way. You heat up the joint with the iron, and touch the solder to the joint. If the joint is warm enough, the solder will flow into it. What you've got is classic "cold joints" ...

Here is a tutorial on soldering
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Tidusblitz111

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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2004, 07:20:00 PM »

OHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! So, what you are saying, is, I need to heat up the pin, the connection sircle(AT THE SAME TIME)and then, bring the solder and touch it to the hot pin, and hot connection circle, after I have applied flux to ther area I want to solder, please let me knowif this is more what you are implying(sp?) Is there any way to remove the solder without a desoldering pump(can I use something home-made)?

But, is it just me, or is this going to reall easily over-heat the board?
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2004, 07:43:00 PM »

QUOTE (Tidusblitz111 @ Feb 18 2004, 05:20 AM)
OHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! So, what you are saying, is, I need to heat up the pin, the connection sircle(AT THE SAME TIME)and then, bring the solder and touch it to the hot pin, and hot connection circle, after I have applied flux to ther area I want to solder, please let me knowif this is more what you are implying(sp?) Is there any way to remove the solder without a desoldering pump(can I use something home-made)?

But, is it just me, or is this going to reall easily over-heat the board?

Yes, heat the pin and the circle on the motherboard at the same time, touch the solder to it, and BAM. Done. If your using the right iron,  and properly prepared tip, and fine gauge rosin core 60/40 solder, you shouldn't need extra flux, and the solder joint should be done practically instantly. Because a properly prepared iron works so fast, there is almost no risk to the mobo.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2004, 07:45:00 PM »

Desoldering braid is what you need to clean up excess solder, or to remove solder for re-do. Be careful not to overheat the board and lift the traces or pads off the mobo when desoldering, though.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2004, 07:51:00 PM »

I bought something called a "solder wick". It looks exactly like a desoldering braid, so I believe it will work(it says copper to, so it will) So, should I heat up the braid, and place it on the solder, or should I heat up the solder, and then  place the brai on it? Will the circles on the lpc holes become visible again? Will the braid suck it up, or should I just get a pump?
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2004, 07:57:00 PM »

Ive witnessed problems with S-controllers.  Not frags, but you get to OS and you cant navigate at all.  Just a screen that freezes.  To the name callers, fuck off.  These pages are for helping and making everything a little bit better.  So yes, I can confirm there is an S-controller (and non-MS controllers)  and TSOP booting issue with Xenium.
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