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phigmeta

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« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2004, 06:40:00 PM »
ok bad use of words ....

Maybe i should have said that i dislike their arrogance and hate the way they design chips. I was trying to explainto folks that I AM biased ... and that this should be taken into consideration before reading this post ....

And as for declaring a winner .... i regret that part ... myself i feel that the Xen chip will be the winner ... but you are very correct that i should wait for the realese of the chip .... I was not sure if i should claim a winner but ... i figured who really cares .... most folks in this thread have made up their minds without even understanding the technology anyway ....

as for my girlfreind ... yes i have one ... and even a day job .... both are awesome thanks .... smile.gif


the point of this post was to give a real view of the modchips underlying technologies .... i was upfront with my bias on purpose .... but the facts still remains ...

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Kazaki

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« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2004, 06:46:00 PM »
Ah hell, both sides have me interested.

Eh, I'll get em both and install them into test subjects-errr... I mean future customers- machines and see how it works.

And I always thought Xodus concentrated on ease of installation and stability, such as the Matrix with the pogo-pins and the Cham's solderless adapter which allows me to play catch with the Xbox and my friends. (WE WERE BORED!)

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jokk

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« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2004, 08:27:00 PM »
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Retailers will tend to stock / promote which ever device is
a) firstly available
what customers ask for
c) creates the most profit
d) causes them the least aggrevation in support or returns


The answer is cheapmod na ?

Never trust someone implied in the buissness.

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Why some ppl doesnt like the way Xecutor acts ?

"X3 will be announced / released within a 2 week period"

QUOTE (June 15)
"After testing our prototype of Xecuter3 on the v1.3 we found it worked as normal..."

"Xecuter3 News
It's coming soon don't worry "


Well its been 7 months now smile.gif

Why Xecutor posted this bullshit chart comparison ?

Maybe cause Xenium have been announced / producted in 2 week period, Uber fears something. And its legitimate...

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4 SniperKilla :
You love to see great improvement in the scene right ?
Ask executor to share the kernel srcs. If they do so they'll loose big name in bios devellopement because there is much more taluented people than them but at least they'll give us a proof they're here for fun and not only big $$$.
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phigmeta

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« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2004, 08:29:00 PM »
Well i can't wait to see all of the new developments that executer is promising ... but i have heard the promises before .... and therefore i need to see it with my own eyes ... as for bootup speed .... check the video .... his is all
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Sir Auros

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« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2004, 09:46:00 PM »
With the exception of a few posts here, you lot look like a bunch of ignorant, immature dumbasses flaming and whining about two opposing groups of modchip manufacturers. Neither camp looks particularly mature right now with their childish mudflinging and neither do any of you who flame either side.

Why is this crap so prevalent on these boards? Is it because so many of you couldn't get laid if your life depended on it so you resort to making inferiority complexes better by getting into these petty arguments all the time or go power-tripping on how great your modchips are?

Grow up and try and have an intelligent conversation if you're going to compare the chips.
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MaTiAz

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« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2004, 06:15:00 AM »
I think that Xecuter team is just fishing customer with it's "400MHz next-generation CPLD". From what i've read, I understand that it doesn't matter if the CPLD is 400 or 187MHz.

So I would like to know what's better in the X3's CPLD than Xen's.

BTW, here's a theory:
X3 has a 400MHz CPLD only because it boots a 1024K BIOS 0.0000000001 nanoseconds before Xenium(EXcluding the loading time of XOS). I wonder why the X3 CPLD clock should be same as my Celeron's speed(400MHz)...
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BenJeremy

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« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2004, 08:25:00 AM »
No.

Actually,  there is something to be said for a faster CPLD, even if the bus runs at 33mhz. Anybody who tells you different doesn't understand the issues involved. Also important is the resources available on the CPLD (Gates, Cels)

Complex operations take multiple cycles to accomplish. Faster CPLD == More complex operations.

I was actually involved with a project to encode an application that took color imager input, in real time, and analyzed it to determine control over another device (Can't tell you more than that). Faster speed was better, because even though we only handled data coming in at a particular rate, the complexity we could handle varying situations depended on finishing the entire image analysis within a specific number of cycles (during the vertical blank).

This is not to defend the silly chart, but rather to explain that the haters are way off base on this one.
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jokk

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« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2004, 09:29:00 AM »
Posted all quotes from Ubergeek about X3 in their forums :

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You have been banned from this forum.
Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information.


You hate the truth UberGeek ?
It can make you loose customers ?

Prototype of X3 ready on June 15 biggrin.gif
The scene can be funny afterall....
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« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2004, 10:01:00 AM »
QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Jan 10 2004, 01:25 PM)
I was actually involved with a project to encode an application that took color imager input, in real time, and analyzed it to determine control over another device (Can't tell you more than that).

Sorry Ben, that was too much information.  

We're coming to get you now.

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SniperKilla

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« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2004, 11:31:00 AM »
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4 SniperKilla :
You love to see great improvement in the scene right ?
Ask executor to share the kernel srcs. If they do so they'll loose big name in bios devellopement because there is much more taluented people than them but at least they'll give us a proof they're here for fun and not only big $$$.


i still have yet to see ANYONE with a bios that comes CLOSE to the quality of the xecuter 2 bios's
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lookformeb

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« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2004, 02:01:00 PM »
QUOTE (phigmeta @ Jan 10 2004, 05:53 PM)
Yeah team executer banned me to after i pointed out that they had a bad external connector on the x2.3b pro

I could care less myself .... i can't wait till they put out their new bios for the x3 .....  i will spend long night designing a cheapmod to use their bios .... for no other reason than to just piss them off

Unlikely you got banned for that as there are two active threads concerning this right now.

What was your username on the site?  We were just bombarded with serveral children who went along ranting about how much better the Xenium chip is than the X3 along with spreading ignorant propaganda.  Not only were these individuals spreading useless garbage, but they were aiming personal attacks against myself and Xecuter.  Subsequently, because of the severe inconvenience of filtering out the complete bullshit posts were were recieving, the admin closed the X3 forum completely (for now).

My guess is you were one of these ignorant folks... I'm willing to bet a hell of a lot on it.

edit:  One of the many reasons I know you posted nothing about a possible faulty external connector is because if you had, you would have no reason to rant about it in here, now would you?  No, if you actually has an Xecuter chip you had issues with, you would complain about this in the appropriate forum on xbox-scene... Certainly not in a "Xenium Vs X3" thread.   dry.gif
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SniperKilla

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« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2004, 02:47:00 PM »
heh, hes just a mindless idiot fanning these flames, and "design" a cheap mod, kid id love to see you even install a cheapmod
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jokk

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« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2004, 03:01:00 PM »
QUOTE (SniperKilla @ Jan 10 2004, 09:31 PM)
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4 SniperKilla :
You love to see great improvement in the scene right ?
Ask executor to share the kernel srcs. If they do so they'll loose big name in bios devellopement because there is much more taluented people than them but at least they'll give us a proof they're here for fun and not only big $$$.


i still have yet to see ANYONE with a bios that comes CLOSE to the quality of the xecuter 2 bios's



The time has come my friend smile.gif
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lookformeb

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« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2004, 03:17:00 PM »
QUOTE (Kazaki @ Jan 10 2004, 06:55 PM)
It's not like I respect them anymore then I did before for the chart, if not less.  No teams working on a modchip should seriously be allowed to create a table, only the neutral groups (ala Xbox-Scene).

It's called marketing...  tongue.gif

jokk, you're funny... no really...  laugh.gif
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Sir Auros

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« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2004, 03:41:00 PM »
QUOTE (lookformeb @ Jan 10 2004, 08:17 PM)
QUOTE (Kazaki @ Jan 10 2004, 06:55 PM)
It's not like I respect them anymore then I did before for the chart, if not less.  No teams working on a modchip should seriously be allowed to create a table, only the neutral groups (ala Xbox-Scene).

It's called marketing...  tongue.gif

jokk, you're funny... no really...  laugh.gif

You should see his bs against Iriez over in the emulators forum...

Really, this whole thread is full of shit, and the people defending the X series are starting to look just as petty as the people baselessly trashing them.
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