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[alexh]

Yeah, cheaky I'd say that's what it was, bit of harmless mocking

Cheers

Alex

[HSDEMONZ]

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There is no room for an easy buy with gimmicks and such that really do very little to enhance the consumers ease and experience.

you caught that too huh..

[conc3pt]

i dont' know about you guys but you remember when the chameleon came out? WAS supposed to be 20$ but what.... they bump it up to 200%+? and if i remember... their reasoning was because they have to give discount in bulk? 20$ sounds alot cheaper than 35$ if you buy in bulks of 20 (not the real numbers) x2 has never changed prices on their customers like that according to what i remember/or have read.  if you're talkin about marketing...THAT is the reason why i was turned off by them and have been pro x2

[Yuyu]

As an owner of both brands of chips I must say, the Chameleon and Xecuter are right on par with each other, the latest efforts by both manufacturers I believe will come down to what most of the Dashboard scene has come down to, personal preference.... Both chips will have all the options you "Need" but, one or the other will offer something you "Want" and that will probably be the reasoning behind your choice of chip... I think they will both accomplish what they must accomplish equally well, its just the fun extras and personal preference that will make the decision I believe....

[Artifex]

QUOTE (conc3pt @ Jan 1 2004, 06:16 PM)

i dont' know about you guys but you remember when the chameleon came out? WAS supposed to be 20$ but what.... they bump it up to 200%+? and if i remember... their reasoning was because they have to give discount in bulk? 20$ sounds alot cheaper than 35$ if you buy in bulks of 20 (not the real numbers) x2 has never changed prices on their customers like that according to what i remember/or have read.  if you're talkin about marketing...THAT is the reason why i was turned off by them and have been pro x2

You sure that wasn't EB2K's doing?
Sounds more like their M.O. then Xodus'


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[Heet]

No it was the Xodus Team decision.  I was pissed at first but once I got one in my hands I realized that it was a hell of a deal even for a few bucks more.

[conc3pt]

it jumped from 20$ to 39$ right?

[MaTiAz]

I'm gonna get one of those, when i get my refund from Divineo.

I bought a Xecuter2 Lite Plus. It never worked. Ok, I returned it and got a XBIT. Didn't work either. I'm sure that OzXodus is better than Xecuter.

Actually OzX is good in the software side, since their OzXchip was simply a Cheapmod with jumpers and a pcb. Xodus m,ade a little more in the hardware.

Well, I should raise a hat for Xecuter since they made their mods from scratch. OzX and many others made only Cheapmods. Xodus changed the cheapmod concept a little.

[Xeero]

QUOTE (Heet @ Jan 1 2004, 07:01 PM)

No it was the Xodus Team decision.  I was pissed at first but once I got one in my hands I realized that it was a hell of a deal even for a few bucks more.

What makes you think that was Xodus' decision rather than EB2K's?

[Flagg3]

QUOTE (Orgasmic Chilli @ Jan 2 2004, 07:40 PM)

I know that only time will tell but I have found an xbox under the xmas tree. what a Suprise (not really    )! but should I wait for this chip and/or the exceturer 3? or just order a chip which is already available ps. I got a shitty Thomson drive in my xbox   looks like i'm gonna have to look for a samsung drive

I would wait a week or two for the new chips.  Even if you don't want one, the prices on the older chips will drop almost immediately.  

From what I can tell, the X3 and the Xenium will both have basically the same features.  It appears that the Xenium will ship sooner than the X3, so if you can't wait then the Xenium will most likely be available first.

After they both ship, you probably couldn't go wrong with either one.  I would choose between the two mainly on price.

Flagg

[Flagg3]

QUOTE (conc3pt @ Jan 1 2004, 01:16 PM)

i dont' know about you guys but you remember when the chameleon came out? WAS supposed to be 20$ but what.... they bump it up to 200%+? and if i remember... their reasoning was because they have to give discount in bulk? 20$ sounds alot cheaper than 35$ if you buy in bulks of 20 (not the real numbers) x2 has never changed prices on their customers like that according to what i remember/or have read.  if you're talkin about marketing...THAT is the reason why i was turned off by them and have been pro x2

The Chameleon was supposed to be $25 at launch, and they honored that price.  They also gave about a weeks notice to everyone who wanted the chip at that price they could receive it.  

I bought 5 chameleons at $25 each at launch.  After the price increase, they wen't from $25 + shipping to $35 with shipping included, so if you were buying only one, then the price increase was only a couple of dollars.

So, while it wasn't the best move, there was no deception.  It was simply a price increase.

Flagg

[Heet]

because they posted a paragraph about a price change and why they had to do it on the XS front page.

[swolsten]

Good luck with the mod guys, I know it will take off and I will be one of the first people ordering a few of them.  Please pm me if you are accepting pre-orders

Happy Hacking  

[bartdesign]

I hate the ugly switches. Xenium OS    

BjB

[gOoBaLL]

As soon as I read the review I know the fact that XoS must load will turn many people off in regards to the chip.

Personally, I don't mind it. If loading XoS is the only trade-off in moving everything to being solely software controlled then I'm happy.

The thing I'm wondering about, though, is the amount of time it actually takes XoS to load. i.e. if you set 'bios load delay to 0, how much longer will it take to boot into games?

Good to see things such as dvd region changing being so seamlessly integrated, though.