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alexh

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« on: December 30, 2003, 02:07:00 AM »
Am I missing something here?

IMHO the way Xodus *BEAT* the competition with the chameleon was price.

In the UK the Chameleon excelled in this area, the Executor 2.3 Lite was 40% more expensive than a Chameleon. (Executor 2.3 Lite = £25, Chameleon 1.8LE = £15)

Ok, so features wise the P&E connectors ALSO set it infront of the competition with no "unsightly" external switches but they appear to have gone from the Xenium.

(NOTE: Perhaps P&E will be replaced with a software solution?)

Looking at the complexity of the Xenium, the BOM (Bill of Materials) etc. it's not going to be cheaper than the Chameleon to make and keep up quality.

Looking at it's feature set I personally dont see ANYTHING that sets it above the chameleon.

  • 2Mbit flash. So what most people dont use 1Mbit to it's full potential
  • Removable D0. Cool, but I add these to my Chameleons as per a Tutorial on this website
  • Emergency System Recovery. This is the most interesting of the features, but I'd need to know how it works. Where do they store the data, if it's in the flash surely a bad flash can still corrupt the entire chip, even if they tie off an address line to a switch?
That's it?

Ok, so I will buy these instead of chameleons if they are about the same price, but I dont see them as 4th Gen modchips, IMHO it's an evolution of the Chameleon design. Dump the redundant Matrix programmer port, add the removable D0 connector that people have wanted, and increase the size of the flash.

I'll be pleasantly suprised if I am proved wrong.

Regards to Team Xodus (ozXodus).

Alex
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akillamuthafucca

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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2003, 02:19:00 AM »
Whats the price and are they solderless cause I like solderless a little chameleon adapter and ther I love it
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akillamuthafucca

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2003, 03:32:00 AM »
Yahoooooooooooooooo! Solderless can I say give me 100 of those
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insertjokehere

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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2003, 11:22:00 AM »
The most kickass feature of any (bios) would be the Badger song playing at startup!
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IDDQD

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2004, 07:45:00 AM »
Hmmmm... maybe check out the link in Jon's sig!
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leisenstein

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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2004, 08:50:00 AM »
I really haven't seen anything that would make any of these chips "4th generation".  They are just slight improvements to the current chips already available.   This would be light calling an Intel Xeon, "Pentium VI".

The most groundbreaking change was the 137gb limit, and this is already incorporated into the bios & dashboard.

JM2C

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swolsten

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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2004, 05:56:00 PM »
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Good luck with the mod guys, I know it will take off and I will be one of the first people ordering a few of them.  Please pm me if you are accepting pre-orders

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wireless g

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2004, 06:16:00 PM »
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Dankbud

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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2004, 01:47:00 PM »
QUOTE (krazyK @ Dec 26 2003, 04:44 AM)
I'm perfectly happy with my Matrix and I've found no real good reason in upgrading to a newer chip.

uhhhh....what do u have u xbox bolted down or something or is it soldered in there? ive installed a lot on matrix chips and after awhile most move and have to be re-aligned. they suck ass. they are great for non solder, but they always move. i LOVE the chameleon, the spring loaded D0 thing is absolutely fabulous!! i hope this new chip has that same feature...
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FLuKE11

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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2003, 11:29:00 AM »
Any ideas on what kinda cool new ideas/features will be implemented into this new chip?

Doesn't seem like there's a whole ton of things that could really be done, chips are pretty sweet now as it is.


Thoughts?
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Xeero

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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2003, 11:32:00 AM »
No ideas yet, as there isn't too much "fuss" about the chip.  They just made the announcement.  It's not like they're hyping it.
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heinrich

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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2003, 11:32:00 AM »
QUOTE (FLuKE11 @ Dec 24 2003, 04:29 PM)
Thoughts?

Pie.
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kl0wn

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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2003, 12:33:00 PM »
QUOTE (heinrich @ Dec 24 2003, 09:32 PM)
QUOTE (FLuKE11 @ Dec 24 2003, 04:29 PM)
Thoughts?

Pie.

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GLaCiERDC

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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2003, 12:35:00 PM »
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leisenstein

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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2003, 04:36:00 PM »
QUOTE (VashTS @ Dec 24 2003, 10:34 PM)
Doughnuts!

Mmmmmmm...  Doughnuts.
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