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winbypin86

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« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2003, 07:00:00 PM »

man i wonder what happened??????????
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« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2003, 07:37:00 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2003, 07:56:00 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2003, 08:16:00 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2003, 08:25:00 PM »

I don't know if this is true or not but if it is your future is at stake and I will reiterate everything you need to know:

1) DON"T SAY ANYTHING - don't talk or admit to anything, not your school, not the cops, just your lawyer, don't talk to your friends about it either.  NO ONE HAS EVER HELPED THEMSELVES BY TALKING TO THE COPS - EVER.  Let your lawyer deal with all of this.  He will have a field day and they will go fuck off.  Just keep your mouth absolutely shut.

2) Get a good lawyer.  If you've already found one I imagine he told you not to post about this one the web so I expect not to hear back from you.

3) See #1 again and no matter what anyone says don't talk to the cops without your lawyer present and him knowing exactly what you are going to say.  Also, get anything illegal or questionable out of the house.
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« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2003, 09:20:00 PM »

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« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2003, 12:39:00 AM »

I've got a couple of questions and maybe I might be able to give you some advice.

1. Did they present you with a search warrant when they searched your residents.
2. Were the police school or campus police or local police officers.
3. Have you got a copy of the search warrant they used.
4. Were you read your rights and also since your a minor were your parents present.
5. Did you give up your rights when they questioned you to have a person present during any and all questioning.
6. Did they touch any items while they were at your residents.

Heres some things that may help you to look at

1. If the search warrant did not specifically list the items that they took then its a violation of the unlawful search and seizure procedures.
2. Get copies of all documents that relate to your case that they are building up against you.
3. Get names and numbers of your local newspapers and media outlets. Try making calls to the ACLU, Electronic Frontier Foundation etc.... Basically anyone that you can get to listen to your story.

If you post more info I might be able to give you some advice. But thats all I can think of without knowing the case or also the answers to the questions I asked you. Good Luck.
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bebrewer1

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« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2003, 08:57:00 AM »

If the guy has a good lawyer then everything is under control.  I would not go out and buy $2,000 worth of games because nothing is going to happen with this.  Local police do not prosecute for backups nor does the FBI unless you are selling them.

I'd be shocked if this already hasn't been dismissed.
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networkBoy

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« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2003, 09:06:00 AM »

QUOTE (xbox junkie @ Oct 15 2003, 06:20 AM)
So i wonder if hes fighting this right know or if the cops talked the FBI into taking the case and they ruled that he couldnt use or touch a computer and and or the internet for a specifc time frame  mad.gif  i dislike governments and cops  dry.gif  muhaha.gif

sounds like Kevin Mitnick.
Be careful.
-nB
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Hoppy

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« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2003, 12:25:00 PM »

QUOTE (bebrewer1 @ Oct 15 2003, 02:23 PM)
I don't think it's quite like Mitnik.  The guy that started this thread (regulater7) with his problem was posting in another thread on this forum last night at 9:54PM two full days after his deadline to the cops.  I guess nothing happened out of it and he just didn't want to close the loop with all the folks that offered him advice  sad.gif

Either that or he's full of shit and just wanted to see how much controversy he could generate.
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networkBoy

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« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2003, 01:21:00 PM »

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Either that or he's full of shit and just wanted to see how much controversy he could generate.

that may be, but I would rather not assume it so.  If we did and he was in trouble well. . . .
be that as it may, if he was playing a joke then it was in exceptionally poor taste.  (my 2 cents)

-nB
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Jsmith

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« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2003, 07:37:00 PM »

I'm sure his lawyer advised him to stop talking about it on the internet.  We'll probably never hear the outcome, or even here any updates again.
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« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2003, 08:08:00 PM »

Some of the advice here is complete crap.  National Security Agency guidelines for wiping hard drives is 7 random write cycles ( that would take 18 hours times 7 on a 120 gig drive!) - take it apart, bust/bend the discs, and toss it in a pond.

Good advice, get the lawyer, the first thing he's gonna do is tell you to shut up - to everyone, friends, family, god, discuss your case with *NO ONE*.  

The school can do whatever it wants, yes, there's an appeals process, there's a strong possibility your lawyer can help with this, if they nick you unfairly, you have a right to sue them for money, so they have to be very careful.

If the cops had an "eyewitness" you'ld have already been booked, an eyewitness account is plenty of evidence to book you, likewise on the video tape - if they had one, you'ld already be in jail.  

Somehow, I'm wondering if you really are guilty - in order to get that warrant, they had to have *some* evidence to present to a judge, probably that person who already admitted they stole items, or someone at the school said you told them you did it.  

In any case, if you didn't have the items, their job is alot harder, and the software you had is an even tougher case for them, it's going to take alot of resources for them to prosecute, and unless someone is really pissed at you, it's unlikely they'd bother, but really, the only thing that matters is the judge, they *make* the law, at least as far as you are concerned, yes, you can appeal, you might win, but they can pretty much do whatever they please, no matter what the law says,  people are wrongly convicted all the time in this country, and many can't afford to buy their freedom with a lawyer.  

Good luck, get a lawyer, ditch *anything* incriminating, shut up, and enjoy your personalized trip to hell on earth.  

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ChrisF

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« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2003, 09:01:00 PM »

The cops are applying a fear strategy to get you to admit to something and incriminate yourself.  If they actually had a case against you - you'd be arrested.  They are just trying to get you to screw yourself and get build an easy case without doing any more work (and they have a lot of work ahead of them unless you start openning your mouth and helping them out).

Keep in mind that the law provides for police to say just about anything to get a confession - they can and will lie and this is allowed under the law.  Many times they will also lie and deny it later and their word is accepted as fact in almost every case.  I have seen it happen first hand to friends of mine and other cops will back them up with lies to cover each others asses.  Not even an uninvolved eye witness (which I was) will get you out of that mess without an incredible legal battle.  Absolutely deplorable behavior and made me loose a lot of respect and faith in the law.

There are a lot of good cops out there with integrity that are a credit to their communities but like any other job there are a lot of guys doing the job that aren't so much looking to uphold the law but simply to close cases despite ethics or the truth.  In the heat of the moment don't risk that you can tell the difference - it costs nothing to keep your mouth shut (despite what they try to make you believe once they realize you don't want to talk) and can potentially ruin you if you say or do something stupid (even if you didn't actually do anything wrong - this is how someone ends up confessing to stuff they didn't do, caving to pressure in the hope that it will just be over).

I figure that a lawyer already told you all of this but it never hurts to post it and maybe someone else will benefit.
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« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2003, 10:44:00 PM »

huh.gif  huh?

well i can say is dont talk to anybody about this , get a good lawyer , buy the original games.

Next time the cops go to your house go to Dunkin Donuts and buy all the flavors there is , then when they enter the house turn on your radio and sign :

Bad Cops, bad cops whatcha want
Whatcha gonna do when sherrif John Brown
come for you tell me whatcha gonna do.

Bad cops bad cops
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
Bad cops, bad cops
Watcha gonna do, watcha gonna do
when they come for you

When you were seventeen
And you had bad traits
You go to school and you learn the golden rule
So why are you acting like a bloody fool
If you get hot you must get cool

Bad cops, bad cops
Watcha gonna do whatcha gonna do
When they come for you

You chuck it on this one
You chuck it on this one
You chuck it on mother and
You chuck it on you father
You chuck it on you brother and
You chuck it on you sister
You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me

Nobody naw give you no break
Police naw give you no break
Soldier naw give you no break
Not even you idren naw give you no break

Why did you have to act so mean don't you know
You're a human being born of a mother with
The love of a father reflections come and reflections go
I know sometimes you want to let go
I know sometimes you want to let go

You can get me for some stupid Xbox games

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