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« on: October 26, 2004, 01:11:00 PM »

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well, if you are like me, you spent long hours trying to find just how to do it...
In all seriousness, its actually in the Chameleon users guide 

1) you must solder the two points, one on top, one on the bottom of the MB, I will not go into that as the pics are all over th place 

2) install your chameleon as per instructions, you need to connect a15!!!
a15 is how the chip accesses TSOP

3) flash bank 3 with your evox_tsop_flash...
trust me, flash bank 3...

4) put your chip in mode1 booting to bank 3

you might have wanted to do something before this, and that is, cut and paste the code for the evox.ini file out of the chameleon users guide, and put it into your evox.ini on your xbox

5) at this time, a note, if you a) have successfully flashed bank 3 with evox_TSOP_flash, you will boot into evox, if you do not have a15 connectec correctly, you will boot into the MSdash...that is a little test

6) if you successfully boot into evox, you should see the chameleon software controlls...providing you did the cut and paste suggested above:D

7) select flash bank 0, and choose whatever bios you want !!!remember you must have the proper size bios file!!!

8) remove your chip, and enjoy

9) you might wanna clean up your evox.ini, and remove the chameleon software controll, as you no longer have a chip installed

you dont need to do any cryptic flipping of switches a half second into it, or anything like that...you can TSOP flash a xbox in less than an hour, if you have but the slightest clue

I have flashed 18 xbox's with one chip, 1.0, 1.1, and 1.3 boxes

I hope this helps anyone that needs it


Can someone clearify a few things:

What bank (0 or 1 or 2) do I start off with if I'm gonna boot to bank 3 after I flash?

In step 4, what code needs to be in the evox.ini?

After flashing bank 3 with evox_matrix tsop, the XBOX turns off. I flip the dip switched to boot from bank 3, but I get the flashing lights? What could be wrong? ph34r.gif
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2004, 05:36:00 PM »

For the code do this
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=61755

With this code installed all you have to do is insure your booting mode 1 and don't worry about what bank you have going.

With the flashing lights thing.  What does your xbox do with the chameleon removed from it.  Does it do the same thing with flashing lights.  If so then it says that if you did not hook up a15 then the xbox would boot off the onboard bios and if your xbox on board bios is hosed then I would figure that this would be the test.

I am guessing from the topic of this post you xbox does not work fine with the chameleon removed.  Also just to let you know if you plan on leaveing the chameleon installed then I would flash bank 4 with the retail bios and use that to go xbox live.  Use the code to boot bank 4 when you want to go xbox live.  I am guessing that you wanted to goto xbox live is why you wanted to fix the tsop.

To get the retail bioses goto #xbins on IRC check out xbins tuts for a path to follow to get to #xbins
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2004, 07:47:00 PM »

I have all that code in the evox.ini, so I'm good there.

After booting up with the chameleon on and the flashing starts, if I remove the chameleon, it will frag, which is what it does if I boot without the chameleon.

So you say that I don't have A15 hooked up right if that happens. Because there are two spots on the chameleon 1.3 that are labeled A15, each on oposite sides of the chip. Do I use the one that is closest to the TSOP chip, becuase right now I'm using the one farthest away.

I just want to fix TSOP, because I know that it can be done. ph34r.gif
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2004, 03:21:00 AM »

Ok I would like you to try this then.

Put the 256k versoin of the bios your tring to flash on the TSOP on bank 4 of the chameleon and then boot that bank.  Also what size is the bios your flashing.  The TSOP is 1024k on some motherboards and 256k on others.  You know the A15 is connected if your chameleon is booting off bank 3 with the evox_matrix bios.  If it does not boot or frags then you know the a15 is not connected up.  You should not need to remove the chameleon for any testing.  I would flash bank 3 then use the code to boot bank 3 then flash bank 0 and lastly turn off chameleon with the code.

If you have tested the bios on  bank 4 and you are able to boot off  bank 3 and then able flash bank 0 and still no go.  Reply with the bios and size of the bios and your xbox version please.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2004, 03:34:00 PM »

O.k. I think I see what my problem is, for me I am confused about the banks, but I think I got it now, because I start counting at bank 0, not bank 1, so:

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The Chameleon has 4 banks:

bank 1 = bank 0
bank 2 = bank 1
bank 3 = bank 2
bank 4 = bank 3


1. Correct me if Im wrong, but I should flash bank 3 (a.k.a bank 4) with 256K version of the BIOS I want to put on my TSOP right!

2. Then I boot to that very same bank 3 (a.k.a bank 4) I just flashed, via software boot from the Evox chameleon settings. Right?

3. Now by this point I should have A15 connected (using a wire) to the chameleon chip!? (Does it matter that I'm using pogo pin adapter instead of a pinheader? I have a version 1.0 XBOX, so the holes are filled.)

4. Since I have A15 connected, I should go ahead and flash bank 2 (a.k.a bank 3) with the "evox_matrix_tsop.bin". Am I right so far?

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!!Note: since I'm flashing the chip, the XBOX will auto turn off after the flash!!


5. Now I boot from bank 3 (a.k.a bank 4) then switch to bank 2 (a.k.a bank 3) via Evox chameleon settings. Right?

6. If all is good, then the XBOX should boot off bank 2 (a.k.a bank 3) with the "evox_matrix_tsop" bios.

7. Go to the Chameleon settings and flash bank 0 (a.k.a bank 1) with the 1MB (since my TSOP is 1MB) version of what I want on the TSOP.

What will evox detect as the chip, will it show the "ST TSOP" or the chameleon AMD chip before I flash? (I'd just like to know) ph34r.gif

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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2004, 07:14:00 PM »

I am so sorry I goofed I guess I was really tired is all.  

What I would suggest to do is this and the questions will be answered next.

This assumes that you have already tested the 1024k bios in the 256k form on your chameleon ( any bank really )

Have your chameleon booting off of bank 0.  Use the settings to flash bank 3 with the evox_matrix fix bios.  Then boot bank 3 with the settings.  Then use the settings to choose bank 0 and choose the 1024k file.

Q: Does it matter that I'm using pogo pin adapter instead of a pinheader?
A: No the solderless adapter is nearly the same as a pin header install.

Q:Since I have A15 connected, I should go ahead and flash bank 2 (a.k.a bank 3) with the "evox_matrix_tsop.bin". Am I right so far?
A:No bank 4 aka bank 3 in other words the very last bank should be the matrix_evox fix.  This is becuase of the fact the matrix had only one bank and the chameleon has 4 the last address wil be needed.


Q:What will evox detect as the chip, will it show the "ST TSOP" or the chameleon AMD chip before I flash? (I'd just like to know)
A:Evox will detect that you are writeing to the TSOP.  Different TSOP will have different manufactures but I think all the TSOP are in most of the EVOX dashboards ini files.  A15 grounds the bios only at the begining of the boot process.

This post has been edited by Exzir: Nov 30 2004, 03:08 AM
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2004, 07:34:00 AM »

One more thing. I was booting Evox from the Hard drive, I assume the evox_matrix_top BIOS will not let you boot evox from the hard drive. So I suppose I have to have Evox burned to a disc with the chameleon setting in the evox.ini.


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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2004, 07:33:00 PM »

Evox will boot from the hard drive.  There are not instructions for makeing a dvd for evox becuase one is not needed.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2004, 06:57:00 AM »

My v1.0 box does the same thing...  Cycles through all the colors when trying to boot the evox_matrix_tsop bios and I can boot the box with Evox M7 and it will run just fine.

Double checked a15 points even used smaller gauged wire, but yet no luck.  The only thing I havent done is double check the two points on the bottom of the board.

Anyone else experienced this and found a way to solve it?  Or do you have a method for troubleshooting?

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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2004, 11:06:00 AM »

Spyder,

What bank are you putting the tsop matix bio on.

That will make the differance.  If you follow the directions you put it on bank 3.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2004, 10:55:00 AM »

Bank 3 is what I flashed it on in evox.  And I used the evox ini configuration from here in the forums.

I'd really like to be able to flash my friends box with my chammy so he wouldn't have to pay for a new chip.  Not really sure what's wrong, but I'm taking an ohms meter home with me tonight and test the bottom connections on the board to see if my soldering job is good.  That's if I can find the points on top of the motherboard.

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2004, 07:02:00 PM »

Ok let me start from the begining.

Added or used this line to flash the chip

Item "Flash Bank 3",ID_Chameleon_Bank_3,ID_Flash_Bios

Now we still need to have bank 0 as the default bank to boot off of.  Check settings and double check you did not change a switch or something.

Next we use the software control to boot up bank 3 with this line or you can change the switch to bootup bank 3.  Just make sure you have the jumpers switched correctly.

Item "Switch To Bank 3",ID_Chameleon_Bank_3,ID_Full_Reboot

Now provided you have evox as your default dash and named evoxdash.xbe the evox screen should come up.  From here you should flash bank 0 in the software mode but you will need to have a 1024k bios file since the bios on the tsop is 1024k.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2004, 08:27:00 PM »

nope no work, dvd drive goes nuts and flashes red green yellow in a sporatic order.

do u have aim icq or msn?  id like to chat more to see what i might be doing wrong.

my chammy is 1.8, i have the top two points briged and the underneath two points bridged plus the a15.

like i said it boots fine to evox with the m7 bios,  it just hates it when i try to use bank 3 sad.gif

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2004, 10:43:00 PM »

fixed it!!!!!!!

don't know why but evox_matrix_fix doesn't work with my chammy.

for anyone else having the same problem download the evox dashboard 3921 and use the tsop d6 bios.  works like a charm!

also you wont find the tsop d6 bios anywhere else on the xbins distro you have to get the whole evox dashboard just for the bios smile.gif so don't waste your time searching trust me I just spent an hour looking for this damn file.

enjoy!

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2004, 03:27:00 AM »

Well then i guess maybe your problem was not the bios file but your evox version.  Maybe only certaint version of evox will boot with the tsop flash bios.  

I am thinking that this is what happen.

You booted the bios and the xbox rebooted fine
Where it got to loading evox it instead made the dvd flash three different colors of the dvd drive (normaly it should flash green orange red green orange red)  This lets you know if booted fine.  But your xbox would not load the eboxdash.xbe due to a version conflict.  Now we just need to know what versions of evox is usable.
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