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gnutellafan

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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2003, 11:46:00 AM »

Unanswered questions:

-Why do the 2 dif chips have the same problems in each xbox?
Xbox 1 goes green/orange x2 the frags in- both chips, led pail green on chip 1
Xbox 2 goes solid green but fails to boot, no led on either chip

-Chip 1 give "unknown flash" error with matrix programmer
-Chip 2 flashable with matrix programmer

Adaptor - the only constant: I know 100% that its in the right place in both the 1.1 and the 1.0 xbox and D0 is correct. Is the adaptor bad also? It has a very loose connection with the chameleon
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2003, 05:42:00 AM »

Any word as to what happened or a solution? My chameleon is doing the exact same thing. The adapter and chip installed flawlessly and booted up in Cromwell and asked for a cd. I installed EvolutionX V2.5.256k.bin in default mode (all 4 dips off so it's 4x256). The box shutdown after the flash, I waited like 10 mins the powered it back up. Now it frags. The power cycles twice and stays on the 3rd time with the green/orange lights flashing. I've tried booting to all 4 banks, 0,1,2,3. And I get the same problem. I've double/triple checked all rivits and the D0 point like it's going out of style. I have a 1.2 xbox with an easybuy2000 solderless adapterand  2.27 cromwell came preloaded on it.

Any ideas or suggestions?
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2003, 06:28:00 AM »

I had the same prob, frag - flashing red/green. I had used x2 4973 to flash. I took the chip and adapter completely out of my system, booted the regular bios, shut it back down, changed my dip switches to mode 1, re-installed the chip (checking all contact points and dO carefully). the cham opening screen (with flashing blue light) came up just like the first time. this time I'm flashing with 4979.06. box flashed right away but now I'm on here looking for my next step. Do I reset the dip switches back (I think I read that I do) before powering up again?

- yep, I need to reset the dip switch. thanks JD (i'm learnin')
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2003, 07:37:00 AM »

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Originally I flashed it with the M7, but after it booted into factory OS, I reinstalled Cromwell


What did you think it would do?  M7 looks just like M$ bios.  Flashing your chip is just step one of a two step process.  You now need to boot with Slayers or an Evox XISO CDRW.

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The adapter and chip installed flawlessly and booted up in Cromwell and asked for a cd. I installed EvolutionX V2.5.256k.bin in default mode (all 4 dips off so it's 4x256). The box shutdown after the flash, I waited like 10 mins the powered it back up. Now it frags. The power cycles twice and stays on the 3rd time with the green/orange lights flashing. I've tried booting to all 4 banks, 0,1,2,3. And I get the same problem


First you need to get more current with a BIOS.  Even with a 1.2 box, you should at LEAST be using X2 4977.  Second, it DEFINATELY sounds like your chip became misaligned...especially if all banks do not work.

gnuetellafan says:
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Adaptor - the only constant: I know 100% that its in the right place in both the 1.1 and the 1.0 xbox and D0 is correct. Is the adaptor bad also? It has a very loose connection with the chameleon


Your adapter should tight and flush with the motherboard.  Anything less than that will definately cause problems.

Best to all,

JonDante
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2003, 11:05:00 AM »

Ok, i understand that it will look the same but it doesnt play backups.  And u dont need a dash in order to play backups correct?  I have a Evox dash ready to install but I want to make sure that the chip works first.  In order to test the chip all i should have to do is try to play a backup in my box after its installed.
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JonDante

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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2003, 11:23:00 AM »

True...but are you sure your Backup works at all?

JD
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2003, 11:54:00 AM »

yea the backups are good i have tested on another modded box and they work just fine.  u got any tips for my ?s above.
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JonDante

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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2003, 12:19:00 PM »

Well if you are using the solderless adapter, you really should double check your D0 point and make sure the pin is in the hole.  If you can't even get Cromwell up, it definately is the connection.

JD
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2003, 12:44:00 PM »

so if i have all 4 banks on the chameleon flashed with cromwell 2.27 and i boot it up and it doesnt prompt me to insert my disc with my bios on it or atleast eject the tray, it is a install problem?  Did u have to scrape the lacquer off the board when u installed the chip?
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2003, 01:09:00 PM »

If you have a pre-1.4 box you should get a Cromwell screen.  No matter what you should get a blue blinking light.  What version XBox do you have?  You did say it worked before...so I can assume at some point everything was working.

I did not have to scrape anything...not even the D0 point.

JD
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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2003, 01:15:00 PM »

I have a v1.4.  No, I have another xbox that is modded that works.  When I installed the chameleon on this box i never saw a blue blinking LED other than when I scanned the chip using the LPC programmer.
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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2003, 01:28:00 PM »

What is the key to this install?  I know on the other box i have i used the matrix chip and the D0 pt was the key to whether or not it worked.
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gnutellafan

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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2003, 02:07:00 PM »

QUOTE (JonDante @ Dec 20 2003, 05:37 PM)
gnuetellafan says:
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Adaptor - the only constant: I know 100% that its in the right place in both the 1.1 and the 1.0 xbox and D0 is correct. Is the adaptor bad also? It has a very loose connection with the chameleon


Your adapter should tight and flush with the motherboard.  Anything less than that will definately cause problems.

Best to all,

JonDante

Read VERY carefully what I said. IT is VERY tight with the motherboard and properly aligned, BUT the Chameleon to the adaptor connection is loose.
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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2003, 02:37:00 PM »

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-Why do the 2 dif chips have the same problems in each xbox?
Xbox 1 goes green/orange x2 the frags in- both chips, led pail green on chip 1
Xbox 2 goes solid green but fails to boot, no led on either chip

-Chip 1 give "unknown flash" error with matrix programmer
-Chip 2 flashable with matrix programmer


Backwards to the front:

Chip 1- Since you cannot flash it with the programmer we know this chip PROBABLY has a problem.  However since this chip reacts just like chip 2 in both boxes...let's not go blaming chips on anything just yet.

Chip 2- Since chip 2 IS flashable, tell me what you have flashed it with.  And, is it in mode 1 bank 0 (all dips off)?  

Xbox 1- If Chip 2 has no different reaction in either box than a non-flashed chip has, then I can assume one thing based on what you gave me above.  First boot it with the adapter in, but no chip.  What does it do? Remove the adapter from Xbox 1 (green/orange frags).  Does the box boot normally without the adapter in it?  If not, we know the xbox has problems. If it boots normally it is the adapter or the installation of such at fault.

Xbox 2...what do you mean it "fails to boot"?  Blank screen?  XBox screen? What happens?  If it goes straight to the XBox screen...for sure there is a connectivity error.  The adapter could be to blame in XBox 2.  But I need to first know what happens.  Also tell me what happens when there is NO chip in it...and then also no adapter.

This might take you some time, but I think given how much you have wasted thus far on it, as well as the golden opportunity to get this thing fixed might make it worth your while.  Hell, I know I could have done all of this faster than it took me to type this to you. wink.gif

JD

Adaptor - the only constant: I know 100% that its in the right place in both the 1.1 and the 1.0 xbox and D0 is correct. Is the adaptor bad also? It has a very loose connection with the chameleon
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gnutellafan

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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2003, 03:30:00 PM »

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gnutellafan I read your comment fine.  And I have read your problems.  BTW, the last time a Chameleon did not fit snugly on an adapter in one of my boxes was because it was only HALF on.  It has to be a snug fit...but let's look at your questions.


I have pushed it on all the way down. It cant go on any further and it has alot of play.


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-Why do the 2 dif chips have the same problems in each xbox?
Xbox 1 goes green/orange x2 the frags in- both chips, led pail green on chip 1
Xbox 2 goes solid green but fails to boot, no led on either chip

-Chip 1 give "unknown flash" error with matrix programmer
-Chip 2 flashable with matrix programmer


Backwards to the front:

Chip 1- Since you cannot flash it with the programmer we know this chip PROBABLY has a problem.  However since this chip reacts just like chip 2 in both boxes...let's not go blaming chips on anything just yet.

Chip 2- Since chip 2 IS flashable, tell me what you have flashed it with.  And, is it in mode 1 bank 0 (all dips off)?  


Yes, all dips off. Ive also tried other modes and all modes fail with both chips.

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Xbox 1- If Chip 2 has no different reaction in either box than a non-flashed chip has, then I can assume one thing based on what you gave me above.  First boot it with the adapter in, but no chip.  What does it do? Remove the adapter from Xbox 1 (green/orange frags).  Does the box boot normally without the adapter in it?  If not, we know the xbox has problems. If it boots normally it is the adapter or the installation of such at fault.


Not at home right now, but Ill give it a try.

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Xbox 2...what do you mean it "fails to boot"?  Blank screen?  XBox screen? What happens?  If it goes straight to the XBox screen...for sure there is a connectivity error.  The adapter could be to blame in XBox 2.  But I need to first know what happens.  Also tell me what happens when there is NO chip in it...and then also no adapter.


Blank screen with chip, boots normally to regular xbox with no adaptor/chip, will try just adaptor later.
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