Topic: Matrix Went Dead (3xboot, Red/green) (Read 182 times)

glyph · « **on:** December 30, 2003, 10:38:00 AM »

So below . . .

glyph · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2003, 10:42:00 AM »

After running the Matrix mod without any problems for months . . . I ran into the same 3 boot & red/green flash scenario. Well, sometimes I physically move the xbox so it gets bumped around a little bit . . . so I initially thought that the chip simply required a minor re-alignment. After checking and re-aligning . . . all indications were that the alignment was correct . . . the xbox kept attempting 3 boots and frag. It was point #1 from the following URL http://gp32emulation...article13.shtml that got me looking in the right direction. It says . . .

"If your xbox refuses to boot (3 resets / red/green light problem) it means that you LPC pins are misaliged but your d0 (g-spot) pin is aligned. This is because d0 is connected (and trying to override the original bios) and is 'calling' upon connections on the LPC but is not finding some which makes it reset."

So basically although my Matrix chip was showing green, it was not making full contact with all LPC points. After removing the chip to view the LPC points, sure enough, I could see that (over time) the pogo pins had indented the soft LPC fill points (xbox v1.0) so that one of the pins farthest from the screw was probably not making good contact anymore. So I re-inserted the same Matrix chip (no re-flash etc.) and tested by applying additional pressure with my finger on the far end of the chip during power-up . . . and voila . . . my xbox no longer did the triple boot.

It took some time, but I was able to screw down the Matrix board just enough to ensure the LPC points furthest from the tightening screw maintained contact and . . . boom . . . I was back in business.

I'd imagine that the same could happen to other versions of the xbox besides v1.0 (ie the LPC holes may get looser or wider causing bad contact at some later point down the road). This would explain why banging or dropping your xbox might temporarily fix the issue by throwing all LPCs back into contact. Hope this is helpful to some of you. Best of luck!

Krill123 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2003, 10:49:00 AM »

I guess the best solution is to solder the damn thing. Who knew pogo pins would create damage?

dogah · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2003, 03:30:00 PM »

i am having a similar problem, as noted in another thread in this forum

after reading some of that info on p2, the D0 'activates' the LPC holes?
so if there is nothing in D0 then LPC shouldn't matter?

beating me head against a brick wall, feel like i have been trying to get this to work for years!

707balla · « **Reply #4 on:** December 30, 2003, 08:50:00 PM »

Got the same prob here too. It's called the "christmas Lights syndrome." One of the main problems with xboxes that are broken. I got some information that might help. What starts the "flubber animation" from the beginning is the BIOS not hard drive. I was told by a repairman/modchip installer that if you put in a new BIOS using "the matrix" will fix the triple boot problem which he has done many times. I don't think it's a problem with the HDD because it only loads/saves games.

From my experience if you took out the HDD and try starting it, you will have the same prob, you will barely see the "flubber animation before it freezes/reboots. But after the triple boot with my xbox v.1.0 it would flash red & orange, I took out the AV cable, leaving just the mobo and powersupply (dvd-drive was taken out after hdd) and it does the triple boot but flashes green & red. I know for a fact it's not the AV cable nor HDD but something wrong w/ the motherboard. I spent hours looking for bad traces but never found any. ALSO MY XBOX WAS NEVER MODDED NOR OPENED!!! It's probably just a bad BIOS from playing the damn XBOX for over 5 HOURS!!! Also I may have fried it from playing TOOOOOOOOO long.

murdof · « **Reply #5 on:** January 02, 2004, 02:11:00 AM »

mc gusto · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2004, 03:55:00 PM »

spec-v · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2004, 01:44:00 PM »

Any new updates on this situations my xbox is pissing me off.. The damn thing is radomly doing this and I have the Chameleon LS solderless. Argg. I'm pretty damn sure all the wireless are attached properly.

evilc_y · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2004, 06:00:00 PM »

Hi everyone, I tried this trick, but seems like it didn't work for me:
*fixed* My Xbox No Videosound And Reboots 3x's

But I just found some thing very strange:
When I boot my XBOX w/ Matrix (Mode 1, ON+ON)
-- First Boot --
Lasted probably 1-2 seconds
The LED on the Matrix chip flashed Green for 2-3 times, then turns RED for the until the Xbox shuts off.
The LED on the XBOX has Solid Green for the duration

-- Second Boot --
Lasted probaly 1-2 seconds
The LED on Matrix is similar to --1st boot--
The LED on XBOX flashed 4 times.

-- Thrid Boot --
This time it stays on.
The LED of Matrix is similar to 1st and 2nd boot
The LED on XBOX flashed 3-4 times then FRAG
>> However, when I press the eject button once, the Matrix LED will turn GREEN[Blinking, in testing mode?] (Does that mean the Chip is working?)

>> I can use the double click eject to open the tray and the Matrix LED will turn Green[blinking] as well

Anyone can shed some light on "what" does that mean?

utsajsh22 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 16, 2004, 07:18:00 PM »

see i bought the matrix about 6 months ago its been fine till the last 2 months, the fragging has been sort of rare but it does happen to me, but my main problem is that it damn near never loads my x2 bios it loads my microsfot bios, evr since i put the matrix in i have always left the case screws out, i jsut said to hell with it, someday i will porbably have to fix it and what do you know. for someone reason sometimes whe i do have the case top off it does for a fact have a better chance and booting up correctly and everything a ok i dont know why but it does for me anyway. someone told me to scratch the do point a little bit to let it get a better contact , but reading this section here leads me to beleive in something else. first of all i would defnilty agree the dvd has something to do with it moving the matrix out of alignment. example i just realigned my modchip it worked fine first 2 times i played for like an hour little rainbow 6 then i moved on to sims bustin out for about an hour then i was going for a little prince of persia next thign i know after playing 2 hours the 3 time was not a charm it would not load my x2 bios, possibly because of heat maybe but now reading about the pogo pins, those things are very hard to keep in place since the screw that holds it down is so far from them, and the small jolt that the dvd drive makes when it ejects and injects i would say that may be the problem for those who like me the damn chip keeps coming unaligned, once and a while i will tap or hit the xbox a little but truth it usually never helps, i just get so pissed sometimes i hit it, not trying to make it work just out of anger. so we defintly need to look into a way to secure the chip a little more from being moved by the dvd and see if anyone has ever tryed scracthing the d0 point i hear that does work in some cases, but i dont knwo what tool you use so if anyone has anything to add to our topic hear please do we could all use some help with our worthless modchips.

utsajsh22 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 16, 2004, 07:20:00 PM »

see i bought the matrix about 6 months ago its been fine till the last 2 months, the fragging has been sort of rare but it does happen to me, but my main problem is that it damn near never loads my x2 bios it loads my microsfot bios, evr since i put the matrix in i have always left the case screws out, i jsut said to hell with it, someday i will porbably have to fix it and what do you know. for someone reason sometimes whe i do have the case top off it does for a fact have a better chance and booting up correctly and everything a ok i dont know why but it does for me anyway. someone told me to scratch the do point a little bit to let it get a better contact , but reading this section here leads me to beleive in something else. first of all i would defnilty agree the dvd has something to do with it moving the matrix out of alignment. example i just realigned my modchip it worked fine first 2 times i played for like an hour little rainbow 6 then i moved on to sims bustin out for about an hour then i was going for a little prince of persia next thign i know after playing 2 hours the 3 time was not a charm it would not load my x2 bios, possibly because of heat maybe but now reading about the pogo pins, those things are very hard to keep in place since the screw that holds it down is so far from them, and the small jolt that the dvd drive makes when it ejects and injects i would say that may be the problem for those who like me the damn chip keeps coming unaligned, once and a while i will tap or hit the xbox a little but truth it usually never helps, i just get so pissed sometimes i hit it, not trying to make it work just out of anger. so we defintly need to look into a way to secure the chip a little more from being moved by the dvd and see if anyone has ever tryed scracthing the d0 point i hear that does work in some cases, but i dont knwo what tool you use so if anyone has anything to add to our topic hear please do we could all use some help with our worthless modchips. Oh and i wouldnt as someon stated earlier lift your xbox 12 inches from the ground and drop it, whoever said that must have been dropped on there head when they were a kid.

utsajsh22 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 16, 2004, 07:21:00 PM »

sorry about the double reply my internet got disconected for a second.

glyph · « **Reply #12 on:** January 21, 2004, 11:52:00 AM »

The key for me was screwing down the Matrix chip pretty tight. I believe the Matrix installation instructions indicate that only a slight tightening is necessary because the pins are sharp. However, it seems if you go too loose, I guess you will eventually frag.

So if your xbox is fragging (red/green flashing) check and make sure:

1) Your chip is properly aligned (Matrix will flash green in test mode when in good contact with d0 point)

2) Your chip is making solid contact with the LPC points. Simply having a good alignment (flashing green) does NOT ensure this. If you any doubts, and are still fragging on boot-up you can test by applying additional pressure with your finger on the edge of the Matrix chip while booting up. Your finger and the screw should be on opposite sides of the LPC points for best leverage. Also, make sure you are not in test mode anymore and that you have everything attached (drives, video, etc.) when you power-up otherwise you may still frag for other reasons. Everytime I pushed down a little on my chip it booted fine, otherwise it fragged. This is how I finally determined that the LPC points needed better contact and that I needed to screw my chip down further.

Your mileage may vary . . . but I would check the above before anything else as its pretty simple to do and may save you a lot of trouble. If you don't have any luck, you can always move on to checking traces, bios re-flashing etc.

ltoolio · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2003, 07:29:00 AM »

The symptoms you are describing indicates that you have good contact with the LPC, but either the Matrix is not making contact with teh d0 or there is a bad flash.

What version XBox do you have? If you have a V1.0, you can put the Matrix in diagnostic mode. The LEDs on the Matrix will tell you if it is aligned correctly. If you have a V1.1, this feature does not work.

Also, are you sure that it flashed correctly? I had a bitch of a time getting mine to re-flash after my wife accidentally erased the BIOS through Evox. I had to try multiple computers and 3 different batteries until I got it to work. I also used the dos based MILK rather than a Windows GUI. Did you verify the flash once it was done?

Just a few things to try out...

LT

prplehz · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2003, 10:03:00 AM »

Since you state your problem happens even with the chip out I have to ask 1 is the harddrive stock, and if not did you lock the new one? If it is stock and locked or is replaced and locked then it sounds to me like you have corrupt files on hd, since it is booting somwhat. But then again I am not sure where the actual flubber files are stored. Just a thought...

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