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Telemachus

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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2003, 05:57:00 AM »

Interesting stuff with the power button not working.  Has anyone tried soldering to the bottom of the board instead?  Where would that point be?

So does the Chameleon ground itself through the LPC points, or what?

And finally, did you have to place any jumpers for the TSOP flash?

Thanks.
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explicitlyrics100

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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2003, 06:20:00 AM »

no for tsop flash.
the bottom of the board for p/e is quite hard as the actual connection is to a chip not to a connection ring for a component but it might be worth taking a look any1 who has their console open.
d0 is the ground and doesnt need anything other than that.
Chris
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« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2003, 08:02:00 AM »

QUOTE (explicitlyrics100 @ May 30 2003, 09:33 AM)
ok - if youve tried flashing a million times and it still flashes red/gree but youca n boot cromwell then try a different copy of the evox bios.  there are some duds floating around and you should be fine if you try another.
perhpas as a notice for the future it is a good idea to solder e/p on the back of the board - that way you should eliminate the problem of frying the diode or removing its contact points.
as for the restarting - you have desoldered a connection slightly and thus it may be worth checking your other connections as it is likely this may have happened on another point, check everything is secure, then try booting bank0, then bank 1 then bank 2 just incase there was a bad copy of cromwell.  then make sure you have a good copy of evox or whatever bios you may use - you can only tell by checking with the person you are gettig it off....
finally for the bios flash this depends on which xbox verion you have and whether you intend to remove the chip again at the end.
Chris

Chris, I've pretty much already done those steps.  I've tried nearly 5 different evo-x bios in 256kb format, and even the Cromwell bios, nothing flashed correctly.  I did fix my power button and the reset timer by resoldering the diode, and making a jumper from the back of the board to that diode- so the power button works and it doesn't auto power down.  Flashing the bios is still a problem.  I've booted from each bank that contains a good copy of cromwell now, cause bank 0 isn't flashing- and I still can't get it to flash.  Each time it says it's flashing and not to turn off my xbox, but when it reboots and i set to boot from bank 0, it comes up red/green.  I even replaced my chip w/ another chameleon.  Same thing- boots fine, flashes fine (i think) and then bank 0 still sucks.  Anyone got any suggestions???  Maybe someone could hook me up w/ the TATX 512kb bios and I could try that???

Kyle
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explicitlyrics100

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« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2003, 08:31:00 AM »

so can you put evox on any of the banks in the chip or is it just bank 0 that doesnt work - if so then boot evox or something into bank 1,2 or 3 and then flash bank 0 from there.  if you have flashed bank 0 and it restarts how come it boots cromwell again from the same bank, if it boots cromwell and it says it has flashed then it could be some flash protect ont he chip or perhaps one of the pins on the chip has broken.
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« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2003, 09:27:00 AM »

if you change the jumpers to boot bank 1/2/3 it still only flashes bank 0? i cant belive thats true, oh well i guess i havnt tried it coz i never needed to... gd luck
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« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2003, 01:47:00 PM »

If you have another chip lying around (Matrix or similar)... try booting your box by holding it in place. If you succcessed... hotswap the chip with a chameleon and try to flash an evox bios from Evox.
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« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2003, 01:51:00 PM »

Ok i found out something cool.  If you ground the D0 point to the motherboard (the nearest screw hole), the xbox auto boots from the LPC.  So i just quickly did this and got my chameleon to boot.  Can i flash the chip with it like this?  or will it ruin my tsop?

Kyle
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explicitlyrics100

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« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2003, 02:44:00 PM »

never tried it so i cant really help you there - however if you flash it - it all goes bad then you have a bad bios on tsop - so what? you can always reflash it once more

and what i was saying about the banks - is boot into bank 2 and flash bank 2 (or any bank bu 0) then boot into it again so your in evox - then flash bank 0 from evox.... is that what you tried or does that not work?
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Telemachus

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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2003, 09:10:00 PM »

Holy moly, you guys are DESTROYING your XBOX's with those E and P points.  I am beginning to think that those points should be categorized as INTERMEDIATE-ADVANCED users ONLY!   Afterall, the options that they offer are totally accessable with software control.

I don't think XODUS ever IMAGINED that so many people would have problems with those things.  It's really sad, actually.  Just get the pin headers and the D0, and call it quits in my opinion.

Really, it took me maybe two drops of solder to get wires to stick to those points.  Take it easy, and USE FLUX, or don't try them at all!

As far as the alternative D0 goes, I would be weary to use it.  The only XBOX I have seen get fragged was my brother's who tried to solder the alternative d0 and pulled it off.  The top is a little tricky, but just cut the wire down with your XACTO knife so that the wire fits into the hole, tin the wire, drop a tiny bit of flux on D0, and slap it in.  The hardest part about it is holding the wire long enough for the solder to drop... fingers get kinda hot, so I just tape down, secured with an "S" similar to IV securing.

What still baffles me is the quick solder method.  Having never used an X1, I found the idea quite absurd.  It looks cool, but I would NOT want the Cham that close to the MB.  Many people having luck with this install?  Might actually be easier than headerpin if you aren't interested in upgrading in the future...

Sorry for the long one.

Peace
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« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2003, 01:42:00 AM »

if you can see the diode details on somebody elses or on another diode of the same type then by all means take a trip to radio shack and see what you can do.  Chris
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« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2003, 12:00:00 PM »

Guys, just confirm for me:

IT IS NOT CURRENTLY POSSIBLE TO FLASH THE CHAMELEON WIHT A MATRIX PROGRAMMER

Is this correct?
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explicitlyrics100

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« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2003, 01:02:00 PM »

yup sorry not possible at the moment
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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2003, 02:41:00 PM »

There's a loaded question...

It's certainly supposed to... Cromwell on all four banks...
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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2003, 03:26:00 PM »

heh true, but you should get a working one im sure.  yeh  theres plenty of info on it and some if it isnt flashed too.  Chris
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Telemachus

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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2003, 03:26:00 PM »

I love the post about the alternative E and P.  Great minds out there helping to prevent fragged Xbox's.  smile.gif

I am curious to see what Xodus will do with the no solder adapter for the chameleon.  I would imagine that it will omit both E and P, and possible even A15.

As I feel that A15 is totally optional, I think that this methos for inserting E and P without soldering will be quite a nice adjunct to their adapter.

I will try to post later this evening or tomorrow after I try the alternative E and P that were suggested.
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