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[slamer]

well in the end it is your choise, wich chip you choose.
and you cant complain, all business want to make money.

i cant even see that easybuy are selling x-ecuter chips, they sell xoudus only i think.

[BenJeremy]

I have to say, this all smells a tad like a scheme to hold off buyers of 'other chips'

This happened with the Matrix, and later, to a lesser degree, with the X2s.

I'm concerned because this has the same air of the "Comparison chart" stunt that was called a 'joke' after people assailed Team Xodus for putting it up.

Remember: the "Chameleon" was announced shortly after the X2s started shipping. That was MANY MONTHS AGO. They've been stringing along quite a few people since then.

In my mind, it's dishonest marketing.

...and now we have the stealth stealth feature -so stealthy, it doesn't even appear on the chip.

[Mage]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Apr 11 2003, 02:04 PM)

...and now we have the stealth stealth feature -so stealthy, it doesn't even appear on the chip.

Hey, it's on the chip, just the chip can't detect it, it's soooo stealth!  

[enigmatl]

That's a very good point.  They said it had stealth and now it's either so invisible that you don't even hear about it or they just stopped talking about it because they couldn't get it working and maybe we'd just forget.  In that case, they shouldn't have advertised it but rather said they were working on it.

[vulgusprofanum]

Well, I'm in the same boat.  I pre-ordered my matrix back in the day, and now a chameleon.  I don't really need it, so I don't mind waiting, but it sure is a silly way to do business.  It is my impression that eb2k is responsibe for these bs dates.  Anyone who has ever tried to get something like this into large scale production must appreciate the uncertainty and time involved.  Bottom-line; If you're gonna' bitch, bitch to eb2k.

[NRG]

If I want chips (matrix or chamelon) I know where to go to get them. Websites take forever!

[Lordscr]

QUOTE (Mage @ Apr 11 2003, 10:22 PM)

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Apr 11 2003, 02:04 PM) ...and now we have the stealth stealth feature -so stealthy, it doesn't even appear on the chip. Hey, it's on the chip, just the chip can't detect it, it's soooo stealth!

Your joke was funny the first time, now it's just getting old.

[Lordscr]

QUOTE (Mage @ Apr 12 2003, 05:39 AM)

Of course, you don't like team X-ecuter right?

Heres my reply.  So where did you gather that shit??? What makes you think that I don't like team X-ecuter??

[BCfosheezy]

who the hell can answer that honestly? we know just as much about the chip as you.

[tntomek]

I am personally not a very convincing threatening person but some people are very good about getting the salespeople to tell the truth. And if they don't know you can always ask for the manager. Surely someone here has the right attiture and vocational skills to call them up and get a straight answer for all of us. I think I speak for everyone that this would be the most usful thing anyone has done on this site in weeks...Anyone

[n1tro]

  Blame China and their government for covering it up, which lead to increase in cases of SARS, which cuased the workers to drop dead, which delayed the production line, which yadda, yadda, yaddda...

My point is all this time waiting has made you a bitter person while you could have been enjoying the power of the XBOX like I have over a year now.  The irony (or maybe called something else here) is that all this time you've been waiting for the Matrix and all its "must have features", there a 90% chance you'll never use them or for awhile know how to use them    Then shortly the X-ecuter 3 comes out then the cycle starts over again.  Times like this, people who have been around can only sit back and   .

I have an idea for Easybuy....maybe they should have a daily update on the Chameleon.  The daily updates would consist of "NOT AVAILABLE"...then one day, the "NOT" will disappear.  I think thats the most honest way Easybuy can do it!  

[Ubergeek]

QUOTE (n1tro @ Apr 22 2003, 05:54 AM)

EnigmaTl, Why are you bitching at all? Easybuy just distributes the Chameleon.  Team Xodus just desgins it.  Its actually the factory that produces it thats probably delayed.  Maybe the factory workers in China all called in sick because of SARS!     Blame China and their government for covering it up, which lead to increase in cases of SARS, which cuased the workers to drop dead, which delayed the production line, which yadda, yadda, yaddda... My point is all this time waiting has made you a bitter person while you could have been enjoying the power of the XBOX like I have over a year now.  The irony (or maybe called something else here) is that all this time you've been waiting for the Matrix and all its "must have features", there a 90% chance you'll never use them or for awhile know how to use them    Then shortly the X-ecuter 3 comes out then the cycle starts over again.  Times like this, people who have been around can only sit back and   . I have an idea for Easybuy....maybe they should have a daily update on the Chameleon.  The daily updates would consist of "NOT AVAILABLE"...then one day, the "NOT" will disappear.  I think thats the most honest way Easybuy can do it!

actually the product shouldnt have ANY delay

I checked on stock levels for all parts incc the CPLD and I could make 20k of them within 3 days if need be - and the SARS hasnt affected shit where we all make our mods

the fact is your dealing with easybuy here - so you should have all expected this

You wont see any cycle of hype for X3 tho. You wont know a single feature or any official announcement until the week it starts to ship

The X2 is still #1 seller so we dont have to damage a competition sales when its our sales that would require the damaging

[n1tro]

So, SARS hasn't hit the EU yet huh?     Take it easy.

n|tro

[Lordscr]

QUOTE (Mage @ Apr 22 2003, 08:10 AM)

Early morning person eh Ubergeek? I don't see too many features for the CPLD, and before anyone here trys to explain to me about it, if you don't know vhdl/verilog, don't bother talking. Oh yeah, hey Lordscr, wanna know where I get my feeling you dislike them? Your poll.

I'm not going to spend the time to look this up but a couple of week after that tread, can't remember who, but someone on the Xecuter web site post and open apology letter for doing what I was talking about. I don't care one way or another about the Xecuter Team when I'm sure my only complaint about them was the result of one member of the team.

And Mage, what's your problem, I spent five minutes looking for my first post and I knew what I was looking for. You can’t tell me that you remember that poll from half a year ago. Unless when someone gets under your skin, you look at all their post for ammunition, like a presidential candidate.

[BenJeremy]

Lordscr is the worst kind of matrix fanboy.... he hates Team Xecutor with all his heart and soul, but doesn't think twice about using their BIOS. LOL.

He spends most of his time defending EB2k or Xodus, when it comes to his modchip-related posts.


The Matrix is OK, but Team Xodus' relationship EB2K has really hurt them. Pile the disorganization and slow recovery from the satellite bust on top of the latest Chameleon fiasco, and you have the makings of a disaster for them and their customers - yet people like Lordscr comes to the defense of a company who didn't ship Matrix chips for 3 or 4 months, and was the ONLY supplier of these things.

Now they are making excuses for the Chameleon's late arrival; considering EB2K controlled the manufacturing end of the Matrix, it's likely the same holds true for the Chameleon, so we have two possibilities for it's late arrival: 1) Team Xodus fucked up and is STILL developing at the 11th hour (but of course, they claimed to have had this thing working in December) or 2) EB2K hasn't got their shit together and can't deliver a simple part (even nasis x. can manage that) comprised of easy to get parts (CPLDs, common 1mbyte flash chips).

Of course, that 's giving them the benefit of the doubt. I'm not going to start wondering if maybe they suddenly realized $25 was too cheap and are freaking out at having to supply the chip. Oops, maybe I did - but this is farfetched, as it is just too far along to back out now. EB2K and Team Xodus surely wouldn't string people along for 5 months on vaporware, right?

I hope, whatever is happening, it gets straightened out soon. I'd like to check out one of these chips, but the missing 'stealth' feature makes it far less compelling, whatever that feature was.