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[frekkle]

nice explanation...

[BenJeremy]

Nobody's mentioned it, but I hope they have flash protection on the CPLD, since it would be trivial for somebody (ahem, ::cough::M$::cough:: ) to screw up your modchip to the point of unusability.

It does have flash protection for the CPLD, doesn't it?

[frekkle]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Apr 12 2003, 02:46 PM)

Nobody's mentioned it, but I hope they have flash protection on the CPLD, since it would be trivial for somebody (ahem, ::cough::M$::cough:: ) to screw up your modchip to the point of unusability. It does have flash protection for the CPLD, doesn't it?

Ben a CPLD cant be writted to from LPC

Look at the pics, they left the Pins (like JTAG) so you can program it

[BenJeremy]

Ah.... I missed that.

OK, seems like a feature that's a LOT more hype than useful to 99% of the users out there.

Likely you'd have some installer/retailers who might field-reprogram the CPLD. I can't see users buying a special programming cable to update the thing, though.

One would hope future mods with programmable CPLDs include the ability to program form the Xbox (with a flash protection jumper, of course)

[frekkle]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Apr 12 2003, 03:47 PM)

Ah.... I missed that. OK, seems like a feature that's a LOT more hype than useful to 99% of the users out there. Likely you'd have some installer/retailers who might field-reprogram the CPLD. I can't see users buying a special programming cable to update the thing, though. One would hope future mods with programmable CPLDs include the ability to program form the Xbox (with a flash protection jumper, of course)

bah... home brew programmers were built by people to update their flash
i dont see why they couldnt build a simple JTAG

its only some sires on a LPT port

[nasis x.]

Ok, lets examine those features one by one.
I don't really see anything useful than the led changing colour...

Let's start from the installation of this modchip:
- As a matrix add-on all those features go away, but only a biger space has been added in the Flash Rom.
- Quick Solder is not recomended cause in case of a wrong flash,
you will have to unistall the pcb, cause your Xbox will require service...
- Pin Header, the modchip will be upside down, so forget all the dip switch, leds and fancy things...

Software controllable features
Nowdays, All LPC mods are software controllable with EvoX software.

Flash On board tsop
All LPC mods can flash the onboard tsop, and this is possible only for V1.0 consoles.
The meaning of flashing the onboard tsop, is to install the modchip to boot evoX, and then remove it.
This feature is useless:
- As a matrix add on (cause matrix is much more easier to flash onboard tsop)
- Quick Solder, cause then you can't remove the chip after the installation cause it is soldered on the mobo.
- Pin Header, any LPC can do with Plug&Hack actions.

DIP Switches
A cheapmod can be fully controlled with software, without the need of dip switches.
What is the advantage of adding wires and dip switches???

Front panel buttons support
A clever switch is a must in all new modchips,
with the only disadvantage of the addition points to solder.
I thought that Chameleon was offering this feature with software.
What is the usage of this function and the extra soldering???

1Megabyte (8Mbits) FlashROM
This is the only extra feature that I can see.
Of course the extra space is also useless cause 4 bioses is nothing,
compared to the 1000+ that can be uploaded in Xbox HD!

So many features combined togather,
with the only possible result to confuse the end user without a perpose...
The led may be nice to control it with software,
but why don't you get a lighter to do so, than messing up with Xbox???

[xBaNaNaEv0LuTiOnx]

QUOTE

- Quick Solder is not recomended cause in case of a wrong flash,

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- Quick Solder, cause then you can't remove the chip after the installation cause it is soldered on the mobo.

if you take your time and work carefully, u can remove the mod without any damage to the mobo or LPC points

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The meaning of flashing the onboard tsop, is to install the modchip to boot evoX, and then remove it.

maybe some people just want to leave the chip in there, ever thought of that? i myself have the onboard tsop flashed as a "backup" incase my matrix ever decides to crap out (no realignment   ).

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1Megabyte (8Mbits) FlashROM This is the only extra feature that I can see. Of course the extra space is also useless cause 4 bioses is nothing, compared to the 1000+ that can be uploaded in Xbox HD!

i dont remember a modchip/bios that loads the bioses off the harddrive as of yet, care to prove me wrong?

[Samara]

Holy shit a post by Nasis X that actually has some logic to it!?!?

Ravencry's threads are fun because it's entirely obvious that he's either the biggest Xodus fanboy in the world or an actual employee.

[nautiazn85]

I don't understand all the Chamelon bashing. It has all the features of the X2:Lite and maybe a bit more. But that's not the best part, the best part is that it's cheaper.

Sure a lot of immature Matrix users were spending too much time bashing the X2:Lite, but the key word was that they were "immature."

The Chamelon has a lot of features the Matrix and X2:Lite has, that is what's so great about it. It combines both chips into one nice little chip, and even throws in a little bit of it's own innovation.

It doesn't have to be used as an "add-on" it can be used an a stand-alone chip, which is probably what it'll be used most for. Sure if you use it as an add-on, there are only a few new features, but if you use it as a stand-alone chip, it's a cheap, and easy solution!

Put it this way, it's better than Nasis_X's chip, and the X2:Lite, and it's about half the price of both of those chips. So why complain unless you're a complete fan boy?

[nautiazn85]

QUOTE (james_row @ Apr 13 2003, 04:12 PM)

Somebody buy nasis zyx stuff to stop this nagging bitch from whining everytime he sees an oportunity to do so (which is when there's a new post regardless of the topic)

Whomever buys nasis_x's stuff is either extremely rich and doesn't care about paying a bit extra for no apparent reason, or is naive. Simply put it, nobody in their right mind would pay the premium it costs for Nasis's chips.

And even if you do buy his chip, that won't shut him up, it'll just make him post more. He'll think that his posts is what is drawing in customers. If you want him to shut up, either ignore him, or get a smart administrator to ban him.

[nasis x.]

Take it easy guys, I just told my opinion about Chameleon...

A modchip that is offering you many ways to install it,
doesn't mean that has many features,
cause in the end you will have to use only one of them...

You can't say that by using it as an add on you gain anything,
cause you are losing the most of the features, like software controllable mod.

You can't say that it can flash the onboard tsop,
as long as you solder the chip in the mobo and you can't remove the chip afterwards.
Meanwhile, using the onboard tsop as a backup bios, is not a clever idea,
cause as long as you boot from the tsop, then you can't flash an LPC mod...

So, by installing Chameleon with diferent ways, you get diferent features.
Or, to be more clear, if you want to get all the features, you have to change installation everytime...

This is exactly what X-elixis does, but with easy Plug&Hack actions!
No soldering required, exept from X-elixis LPC connector!

Our Plug-Ins:
X-elixis Basic
X-elixis Plug-In
SST49LF020

Coming next week:
X-elixis Programmer
Matrix
Chameleon
X2 Lite
X2 Pro
Xecuter 1
Cheapmod
X-elixis Lpcmod
Any future LPC mod!

Coming soon:
Xtension Switch
Smart mod
IR mod

So, as you can see, I didn't said that X-elixis can do everything,
combining the features of all the above Plug-Ins/modchips,
BUT if you plug THIS you get THIS...

Chameleon is mixing diferent installation ways and diferent modchips,
to increase the list of possible features, without refering what is exactly needed...
X-elixis does all those things, with Plug&Hack way!

[Samara]

Fantasy truly has met reality.










Oh God now they are fighting.

[frekkle]

QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 14 2003, 05:00 AM)

You can't say that by using it as an add on you gain anything, cause you are losing the most of the features, like software controllable mod.

Nasis if you dont know what you are talking about then shut up!

Nobody said you will loose Software controll when you install it differently

The software control is controlled by the LPC points!
So give it up all ready and go back to your plastic mods
and quit bashing something you have no idea about.

OR even better, if you think you are so good
with what you do, Make your own site/forum
and start charging lessons on

"How to select your own mod without using your own intelligence"
Who knows? You might even make money from it.

[frekkle]

QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 13 2003, 04:01 PM)

Software controllable features Nowdays, All LPC mods are software controllable with EvoX software.

Let me see your XelixShit do what Xodus showed on their site.

You say all mods have software control?
proove it you moron


Or even tell me what YOU think Software Controll is

(this guy is really pissing me off now)

[nasis x.]

Now you pissed me guys:

Taken from Chameleon Chart table:

1. Software Controllable Features (Other mods --> NO)
All modchips can be controlled by EvoX that can directly upgrade the Bios.
Evolution-X is the software that X-elixis Programmer will control Chameleon...

2. LED Indication (Other mods --> NO)
If you see a red led in Xbox, then you definatelly know that is X-elixis.
Matrix has a green or flashing light...

3. Installation Methods
They forgot to mention wires...

4. TSOP Flashing Function (Other mods --> NO)
All LPC mods can flash the onboard tsop. Link

5. DIP Switches (Other mods --> NO)
A fully controllable modchip with software, DO NOT need DIP switches!
Chameleon though requires???

6. Pre-Flashed BIOS (Other mods --> NO)
This is a unique feature from Chameleon... ha ha ha

7. Front panel buttons support (Other mods --> NO)
Are we joking???

8. Expansion Port (Other mods --> NO)
Let me remind you that X-elixis LPC connector is the 1st Expansion Port.
Next week will be compatible with ALL MODCHIPS...

9. Flash with a Programmer (Other mods --> NO)
The only mod in town that can be flashed from a programmer...
I do mine with a photografic flash method...


One is the fact:
Xodus will finally release their Matrix Add-On!
It doesn't matter if it isn't working on the newest Xbox versions,
it doesn't matter if the comparison chart is based 90% on lies,
we will support it as a 1Mb X-elixis Plug-In!