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[Ubergeek]

QUOTE (xrayz @ Apr 1 2003, 08:57 PM)

But its not only that, Software Control = control the Modes on the chip to boot via different banks and use them without changing dip switches all the time.

of course thsi is also a feature of x2 pro and has been from day one

you've not used it yet ?

[Ubergeek]

QUOTE (Wesly @ Apr 2 2003, 01:36 AM)

I find the posts of Ubergeek interesting in this thread. It very much looks like he's fearing the new generation mods (mostly of his concurrent Xodus). Ofcourse this isn't true,..but it sure looks like it. In this Xodus Chameleon thread he comes talking about the new revolutionary hardware features he has planned and wonders why people are so excited over this chip as he states that this chip isn't any better than his latest X2 (almost bashing an unreleased product). Well it's clear that this chip has a few features X2 doesn't have (at the moment); can you name a few features the X2 has over the Chameleon-chip ? I very much appreciate the work of the X-ecuter Team in the scene (from everyone in the scene you may have contributed the most important work), but i'm glad the scene doesn't depend on only the X-ecuter guys as there are a lot of people (like EvolutionX team in cooperation with Xodus) who want to do things you don't want to (like Xbox-live and backups; still very popular request among users) and i think these guys should get just as much support (instead of bashing). If you really want to win this mod-war (looking at the latest mod-introductions/developments, your presence in this thread and the latest price change confirm that this war is indeed reality ) come with better chips as you did before instead of just bashing the competition (like i said before,...the competition deserves just as much support as you guys)

1. no we're not worried - after all most work is based on our original development anyway - its nice to see it progress

2. no im not bashing - if you notice they are just tongue in cheek playful digs - all of our software support all mods out there and also our new hardware too

3. any team who touches xbox live will KILL xbox live. There is a particular kind of user who absolutley dont want it touched - and theres the other kind of user that does - it all comes down to cheap and free games - it has nothing to do with enjoying the real experience of XBL - and that is uninhibited online gameplay (no cheating etc). You get enough free gameplay as it is - XBL should be left alone.

4. I have absolutley nothing to do with price changes. I have nothing to do with sales - this is the job of the retailer. They can sell them for whatever cost they like, at the end of the day the Xecuter brand iss built on quality and reliability and always with a promise to deliver with support from the original team itself - not having to rely on 3rd parties.

I hope this answers some of your points - I am doing my best to answer questions personally

[nasis x.]

QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Apr 2 2003, 09:47 AM)

1. no we're not worried - after all most work is based on our original development anyway - its nice to see it progress

X2 original development includes:

1. BiosXX: The 1st LPC modchip has been COPYED and released under Xecuter2 name.

2. Pogo pins: After a lot of flaming to Matrix modchip for misalignements,
Xecuter decided to COPY Matrix Pogo Pins installation by releasing 2 products,
with lower quality on a high voltage (5V) chip, that is not recomended for ScH.

3. Pin Header: After the new LPC bus in V1.1 Xbox, with removed soldering inside the holes,
Xecuter decided to COPY cheapmods pin header installation.

4. Wires: Xecuter2 has introduced to Xbox Hacking scene, their ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT!
---------------------->  WIRES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For all X2 users who want to through away all these fancy wires in the garbage,
be compatible with Cheapmods and feel the power of X-elixis Plug&Hack installation,
do the following fix to X2 Lite/Pro and build X-elixis LPC clone!

[smokeingit]

oh man.. nas, you is asking for a beating on this thread. I mean lite2 looks like a nice chip and all. seeing that i own 1. you have to admit that it does not give issue's. well unless someone release a crap bios (cough cough) and expects people to take the mistake and smile. i bought the chip not to because its a great chip (its okay) but to support ubergeek so he can go and make a better bios.

[Ubergeek]

QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 2 2003, 11:17 AM)

QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Apr 2 2003, 09:47 AM) 1. no we're not worried - after all most work is based on our original development anyway - its nice to see it progress X2 original development includes: 1. BiosXX: The 1st LPC modchip has been COPYED and released under Xecuter2 name. 2. Pogo pins: After a lot of flaming to Matrix modchip for misalignements, Xecuter decided to COPY Matrix Pogo Pins installation by releasing 2 products, with lower quality on a high voltage (5V) chip, that is not recomended for ScH. 3. Pin Header: After the new LPC bus in V1.1 Xbox, with removed soldering inside the holes, Xecuter decided to COPY cheapmods pin header installation. 4. Wires: Xecuter2 has introduced to Xbox Hacking scene, their ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT! ---------------------->  WIRES !!!!!!!!!!!!!! For all X2 users who want to through away all these fancy wires in the garbage, be compatible with Cheapmods and feel the power of X-elixis Plug&Hack installation, do the following fix to X2 Lite/Pro and build X-elixis LPC clone!

1. Xecuter 1.0 / 1.1 was the first lpc modchip - not bioxx (bioxx was the first PC programmable device) - X2 PRO was also the first multi bios (256 / 512 / 1mb) switchable mod - so im interested in how we copied anything ?  

2. Pogos suck - I still say it to this day. Yes matrix introduced them and that has helped many who dont like soldering. Whats your point ?

3. Xecuter came months before any cheapmod

4. Oh and of course we cracked the xbox originally with a couple of gd5k freinds - lets not forget that small bit that we introduced to the scene

go away nasis x - you're an idiot. Its hilarious that you talk about people copying other people work. Your entire business has always been based on that right through the psx / ps2 early days.

when you actually develop something original - come back to me and talk. Till then stop spamming the place with your bullshit 3D marketing.

[Ubergeek]

[davidhes]

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Now these are the words of a wise man!  I couldn't agree more. XBL is a great service and mods shouldn't make it possible to play online with the mod / backups. It'll kill live and the xbox in the end.

These 2 posts i totally agree with also, the only people who want live to be hacked are people who are purely pirates! And dont want to have to pay for any games, dont make up some excuse saying ohh i need to back them up its not true you just wanna play cheap burnt games on live! The whole construction of the modchip for the xbox i thought was to allow normal people to creat software for the xbox not destroy it by just using it to burn games!

[Kreepa13]

the price would certainly increase if theey made an external adapter.

[frekkle]

QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Apr 2 2003, 08:43 AM)

QUOTE (xrayz @ Apr 1 2003, 08:57 PM) But its not only that, Software Control = control the Modes on the chip to boot via different banks and use them without changing dip switches all the time. of course thsi is also a feature of x2 pro and has been from day one you've not used it yet ?

Erm???

Since when Did X2 have software control of modes?
or even changing modes without having to get up?

someone here has been having alittle more to drink!

[BenJeremy]

QUOTE (frekkle @ Apr 2 2003, 07:08 PM)

QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Apr 2 2003, 08:43 AM) QUOTE (xrayz @ Apr 1 2003, 08:57 PM) But its not only that, Software Control = control the Modes on the chip to boot via different banks and use them without changing dip switches all the time. of course thsi is also a feature of x2 pro and has been from day one you've not used it yet ? Erm??? Since when Did X2 have software control of modes? or even changing modes without having to get up? someone here has been having alittle more to drink!

Um, X2 **has** had this feature from day one.

I can't find the documentation on this at the moment, but you can pick the bank via LPT cable, I think.

[smokeingit]

Well shit ben, i wanna see this software control features. i wanna know how to do it on my pro. please reply with a link this time =)

[Ubergeek]

and so on

we're currently intergrating this into xecuter bios manager along with the lite programmer support

the mod has been software controllable all this time

of course future versions will be controlled by remote / xbe / other things

[frekkle]

Xodus Chameleons Software Control from the XBOX
not a cable or external DOS app.

They mean using your xpad controller to select options from the dash
and have effect on the actual chip.

I sent them an info request and they said that all the relevant info
will be posted on their site in the following days to clarify what
people didnt understand on this and more subjects.

[Ubergeek]

[Ubergeek]

QUOTE (frekkle @ Apr 3 2003, 01:25 PM)

well yes the future holds and awaits Xodus Chameleons Software Control from the XBOX not a cable or external DOS app. They mean using your xpad controller to select options from the dash and have effect on the actual chip. I sent them an info request and they said that all the relevant info will be posted on their site in the following days to clarify what people didnt understand on this and more subjects.

yes this seems the way to go

of course our software controlled app is 3 months old so its obviousley out of date and the obvious progression is xbe controlled switching.

tbh we're concentrating on a completely new hardware/software feature which hasn't been produced by anyone yet. When thats finished we will of course implement even more tasty features.