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[smokeingit]

QUOTE (simchippy @ Feb 8 2003, 06:28 PM)

I got it to work but now I can't get the EvoX_MatriX_TSOP_flash.zip off my matrix. The programmer can't detect the chip:( Sim

give the programmer and the matrix chip the grip of death. i mean to the point your hand hurts....



cracks0r, what is the error you get when you try to flash? and is it a hydix TSOP? tell me what the error is please so i can test it with that bios... beign that i am lots of xboxs here to fix anyways.

[crackz0r]

QUOTE (smokeingit @ Feb 9 2003, 03:55 AM)

QUOTE (simchippy @ Feb 8 2003, 06:28 PM) I got it to work but now I can't get the EvoX_MatriX_TSOP_flash.zip off my matrix. The programmer can't detect the chip:( Sim give the programmer and the matrix chip the grip of death. i mean to the point your hand hurts.... cracks0r, what is the error you get when you try to flash? and is it a hydix TSOP? tell me what the error is please so i can test it with that bios... beign that i am lots of xboxs here to fix anyways.

dude.. how many ways can i explain this before you understand? the tsop is hosed.. your method is no different from the original tsop flash method, except for alignment.. it will not fix a totally hosed tsop every time. I have screwed my tsop up before and managed to reflash it, but this time it will not boot with the matrix_tsop_flash bios. D0 on my box has a piece of 30awg wrapping wire hanging off of it, that i have grounded.. so alignment isn't an issue, but no matter which bios i attempt to boot with (along with the matrix_tsop_flash on the modchip) it just does it's little 3 reboot / christmas lights.. the matrix does the same thing in mode3.. red / green flashing, instead of green for a sec then red solid.. so i take the matrix out and reflash it with x24794 colormod bios, and it boots just fine. I don't get an error in evox, because i can't boot up.. period.. but no matter.. i'll figure out a way eventually.. until then i'll just leave the chip in.

EDIT:::: yes.. it's a hynix chip.

[smokeingit]

[MURDERER]

QUOTE (majik655 @ Jan 24 2003, 04:25 AM)

you know... if you have alignement problems with the matrix.. on the D0 point.. I DO NOT RECOMMEND LEAVING A XBOX THIS WAY... THIS IS ONLY FOR FLASHING! Some may think this is bad.. but I swear it works with no problems or shorts... I wish my camera zoomed in good enough to show..but anyway I will try to explain.. take a piece of .30 gauge wire (dunno if my decimal is in right place but its thin.) anway sheath off like a quarter inch.. then cut that bare wire from the main .. so you have a quarter inch or so of BARE wire. Now stick that little piece of wire in the d0 point.. make sure you ends are straight meaning not cut and bent.. so it goes in nice.. be GENTLE! push or wiggle it in.. it does not go far... just the tip makes it in a little bit. now once in a little.. press down and align it with the tracks.. so it goes with the flow of them. there is a coating over the tracks do not worry about shorting.. (at least I never do. I don't cut into the coating) anyway.. just press down nicely making sure no wire is touching metal. now put a small piece of tape over it .. electrical tape is best I think.. TRY if you can not to cover the linning up points ... so you can see at least one of them through the holes on top of the matrix... now you "should" if you do it right.. just the small little hump that comes out of the d0 point. MAKE SURE it is just a little bit of that wire showing comming out of the d0 point.. and the rest is covered with tap.  (also cover the other little points that are next to it if you can.. just a little tap is all you need. anyway .. now put on your matrix.. but do not even screw it down all the way.. allow for small movement up and down and left and right. Now align the matrix with the tsop chip (the black chip on board)... now you will see.. when you line it up.. the matrix will stop moving  when you hit that little wire on the d0 point. of course you can move OVER it.. but you will see.. you will line it up EVERY time .. so you can flash the tsop. it is a easy way for those picky d0 points.. I do this and it lines up as soon as I screw it down.. and move a little till it doesn;t move down.. of course I can see through the holes and align like normal.. but now when it stops.. It is hitting that little wire.. which is all you need. to flash. I DO NOT RECOMMEND LEAVING A XBOX THIS WAY... THIS IS ONLY FOR FLASHING! if pictures are needed .. i can do it.. just will take a min. or two   heh

Hey I tried this, and it was sooo easy to align the matrix this way for flashing! I flashed 2 XBOXs in 45 minutes today!!

iMURDERER

[crackz0r]

crack is looking at the correct light. the multibios combination used on this tsop is causing the problem for some reason.. it will only boot off the lpc bus with a "normal" bios no matter what.

[ice1138]

I too have had issues with smokey's method on a TSOP with linux flashed. If smokey's method does not depend on the the status of the tsop, then it shouldnt matter thats its a linux bios.
Not trying to say that it doesnt work (works very well in fact), just stating that it will not fix every problem.

-ice1138

[smokeingit]

I do most Xbox's fully intact. with my alingedment method. i do have an issue with 1 xbox i have that KazuyaWaruasobi screwed up... I know i have checked every simple track on the xbox yet it wont let me flash the bastard. i think it may be bios.. i dont see why it would if the xbox depends only on the LPC when it first boots. but i am going to try some brute force shit on that box and see if i can get the TSOP to fully erase.

Yes Knowledgeiv, please do

[crackz0r]

QUOTE (ice1138 @ Feb 14 2003, 02:06 PM)

I too have had issues with smokey's method on a TSOP with linux flashed. If smokey's method does not depend on the the status of the tsop, then it shouldnt matter thats its a linux bios. Not trying to say that it doesnt work (works very well in fact), just stating that it will not fix every problem. -ice1138

my problem child seems to directly relate to the cromwell bios being in the mix (i don't know why however).. see, the tsop flashed completely, then rebooted, then never worked again.. well not without a modchip anyway.. i did use this method to flash a different box today that had a partial screwup, and the guy just wanted the original bios put back on.. worked good.

[area151]

So with smokey's guide to FIX a tsop, can it be used to just flash a tsop that hasn't ever been flashed? Not just to FIX one.
In other words is there NO need to follow this tutorial now?  http://www.xbox-scen...tsop-matrix.php

I can just use smokey's way right?

[smokeingit]

Yes, i should have said its lot easier to flash a TSOP as well.

[smokeingit]

the chip is not dead forever, when you take the chip out... you did kill the connection between D0 and ground right?

[turtlesrule]

Does anyone have an idea why the TSOP is now telling me unknown flash type?

Bump

[turtlesrule]

One more thing worth mentioning is that for device and manufacturer ID they both say ff. Not sure what this means either.

[smokeingit]

QUOTE (turtlesrule @ Mar 3 2003, 10:20 PM)

The first time I tried to flash it, I left the damn ground wire hooked to T1 and it started to flash for about 1-2 sec after the erase. Then it just froze.

I just read that. did you reflash your chip again with the matrix bios before doing this again? because in theory the matrix bios got erased when you left the ground wire on. other then that, i dont know.. you should make a thread only on this.

[nam133]

Just thought I'd jump in here...

I've flashed the TSOPs on 4 xboxes with my matrix using the standard method.  Recently I wanted to flash an onboard back to 3944 to install an x2 pro.  When doing that, I apparently left t1 grounded, and experienced the same thing turtlesrule described - 1/4th flashed then hang.

So here's the interesting part.  My TSOP won't flash (same FF problem as turtlesrule) and my matrix chip won't flash either!  When I try to flash it using the programmer, I get the equivalent of the FF problem-- WinLPC says it can't find the device (the red light goes out as soon as it tries to write) and lmilk errors out, not recognizing the device type.  

I downloaded the lmilk source and changed it to assume the right device type, to get past the device detection routine and assume the right flash chip config.  With that mod it immediately gets stuck while trying to erase.  It's the same exact problem as with the TSOP... it always reads FF's and writes seem to fail instantly.

So it seems that making that t1 mistake is unbelievably costly, as it kills your tsop and can kill your matrix as well.

Any tips on how to fix this would be great... I find it hard to believe that a bad flash should irreversibly f*ck up a flashrom, but it certainly seems to.   I suspect that there might be some way to hook up voltage to a flashrom to force an erase as well, any flash chip experts care to comment?