Topic: Fixing Tsop With Matrix, Smokey's Perfect Way (Read 709 times)

smokeingit · « **Reply #60 on:** April 21, 2003, 10:40:00 PM »

QUOTE (52volts @ Apr 21 2003, 07:02 PM)

Damm I've tried for hours and still no luck. I somehow got a bad flash about 25% of the way and now i can only boot up with a matrix in place. Following somkey's way to the "T" i finally got the unit to boot up in mode 3 with "matrix tsop flash"(took about 1hr of moving the chip around). Here the problem now, the xbox booted with slayer's 2.0 cd and when trying to flsah tsop I get "manufactures ID ff Device ID ff !!unknown flash type!!". So does this mean the Tsop is totally f***up?

Shit. then that means that the TSOP has some how been damaged or at least the bios info was scrambled... i can across this problem with an xbox my friend killed and now think that there are some things that can screw up the TSOP...
jamminj606: it sounds that the xbox motherboard was flashed with the matrix_tsop Bios. because the error you explain is a bios issue kicking the matrix ass some how. so it is like firing back at the matrix or something. some bios you used is defeating the purpose. i am gonna study it some more and try to come up with a solution.

Ubergeek · « **Reply #61 on:** April 22, 2003, 12:51:00 AM »

is it a coincedence that this threda for repairing fucked up tsopss has received over 3900 views ?

I just find that real amusing

smokeingit · « **Reply #62 on:** April 22, 2003, 11:51:00 AM »

Is it possible to reflash a blank TSOP with an LPC mod? If not, will it ever be possible?
Not yet, if at all ever. the reason is because it takes full ownership of the LPC when it boots up. so if were to flash it would no be cunfused which chip to flash. even if you were to take the chip out in process, it would still look for the LPC chip. unlike the matrix bios that overrides that command...

alexh · « **Reply #63 on:** April 22, 2003, 03:09:00 PM »

I was just curious about the limitations of a v1.2 Xbox, as it only has a 2Mbit TSOP flash?

Older Xbox's have an 8Mbit TSOP flash correct?

So Xbox v1.2 can never have a multibios without a modchip (or something) because the original bios uses all the flash?

Thanks

Alex

52volts · « **Reply #64 on:** April 22, 2003, 04:35:00 PM »

If I can boot up the xbox with the matrix flashed with the flash tsop bios, does it mean that my onboard tsop can be repaired

By the way it was a bitch to even boot up the system, takes about 10 mins of moving the chip around now to just boot.

smokeingit · « **Reply #65 on:** April 22, 2003, 05:27:00 PM »

QUOTE (52volts @ Apr 22 2003, 04:35 PM)

If I can boot up the xbox with the matrix flashed with the flash tsop bios, does it mean that my onboard tsop can be repaired

By the way it was a bitch to even boot up the system, takes about 10 mins of moving the chip around now to just boot.

Yes, if you can get it to boot with the matrix then it is flashable. assuming you have the ground connected to T1. it should be repairable.

52volts · « **Reply #66 on:** April 22, 2003, 06:38:00 PM »

Well im sick of tired of adjusting the matrix for about 10mins for each boot. The werid thing is if I use evox d6 bios on the matrix the system is really easy to align, and boots instantly. But if the matrix is flashed with the matrix_tsop it just dosen't want to boot easily. And when it does boot i cant flash the tsop. Now I know that after it boots using the matrix_tsop flash, my alignment is hosed(becaseu the screw has to be loose and the chip is sliding around for about 10mins until the system boots, its impossible to hold the chip in that spot). The question is will the matrix have to still be align after the xbox boots for me to flash the Tsop ? Oh and if I get the matrix align and booted with the Evox D6 and flash the matrix chip with the matrix_tsop shoudln't the chip be align enough for the xbox to boot in mode 3 and grounding the T1 ? (its not booting, unless i loosen the screw and wiggle the chip liek hell). Oh and I tried flashing the chip via matrix programmer and evox no effect on booting still can't flash once it boots.

52volts · « **Reply #67 on:** April 23, 2003, 12:01:00 AM »

Alright I give up, my tsop is totally toasted. I solder the the matrix to my xbox using header pins. Evox d6 works and boots up my xbox fine. I flashed the matrix with the matrix tsop put it in mode 3 and the xbox just turns on and off, on the 3 try it stays on with a blank screen. Now my question is about the 29 wire mod fix. How do i do it

ronfar623 · « **Reply #68 on:** April 24, 2003, 11:39:00 AM »

QUOTE

Now my question is about the 29 wire mod fix. How do i do it

Well, first you have to find a 29-wire mod. From what I hear, they are pretty hard to come by these days, but I have to admit that I haven't really done any searching. The idea of soldering 29 wires to pads the size of a pinhead just really didn't appeal to me. I had enough trouble just getting the T1 wire to stay in place.

The method I read to fix a TSOP with a 29-wire mod involved soldering the mod in place, booting from it, then cutting every wire one by one so that when you flash, the data goes to your TSOP instead of the mod. Basically, you only get one shot at it. Hope that helps!

jamminj606 · « **Reply #69 on:** April 24, 2003, 06:21:00 PM »

Well, I put off fixing the bad xbox and flashed a normal xbox just fine with the matrix. I'm thinking you guys are right about a totally dead bios being unflashable, as it didnt work for me. Also, a while ago I had another xbox with a bad flash which I tried to fix with a 29-wire homebrew. The chip worked, but it would NOT flash the tsop (after cutting the wires) so I had to leave the chip in for the system to work. Maybe a really bad flash can totally corrupt a bios beyond repair (other than a bios replacement/lpc mod).

FIREitUP · « **Reply #70 on:** April 24, 2003, 10:58:00 PM »

hmm, dont you have to connect a wire from the d0 or something, i read a tutorial

queasy · « **Reply #71 on:** April 30, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

is there still no solution for doing this with a v 1.1 MB??? I flashed my TSOP with a 512 version of my xbox original bios. I have the switch wired with #19 in the center and ground and +vcc on the outside pins. I had the switch installed and booted through my TSOP to evox and flashed with the switch in on postion. upon booting again I get the 2 flas and frag. I see lots of help here for v 1.0 boxes but is there any help for 1.1 boxes yet???

FIREitUP · « **Reply #72 on:** May 12, 2003, 01:46:00 PM »

i didnt know this didnt work with version 1.1 mobo, i tried it and now i get FRAG with hd beeping without matrix on...any help??

lsmod · « **Reply #73 on:** May 12, 2003, 03:40:00 PM »

QUOTE (ronfar623 @ Apr 22 2003, 06:01 PM)

I read in another forum that the Matrix_TSOP_Flash image needs at least one working BIOS image on your TSOP in order to work.

OK, if this true, then this is a far cry from Smokeingit's original claim that it will work with the TSOP in any state.

Not trying to dis anyone, just trying to understand.

I have a 1.0 xbox with nothing usable in the TSOP (screwed something up with Raincoat). It runs fine with the Matrix enabled, but if I load the Matrix_TSOP bios it won't boot. (regardless of the T1 wire)

Am I correct in assuming that if the xbox will run from the matrix (EvoX D.6.blue) that the matrix is properly aligned? So if I then load the Matrix/TSOP bios using EvoXdash and it won't boot, I'm truly hosed here?

Given that, are there any other ways (this side of desoldering the chip) to rewrite the onboard flash? It's not a big deal, I do have the Matrix, and couldn't care less about live, but it would be nice to recover the TSOP.

Thanks,
-Z

chuckfredgoose · « **Reply #74 on:** June 01, 2003, 10:54:00 AM »

The Matrix Fix will not work on a v1.1 xbox nor a v1.2 right?

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