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manschadow

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« on: January 16, 2003, 05:20:00 AM »

QUOTE ([email protected] @ Jan 16 2003, 09:21 AM)
I just installed a Matrix modchip into a v1.1 Xbox and I have a couple of gripes about its design.

- The whole pogo pin thing seemed like a good idea, but let me tell you that any piece of hardware where customers have to jiggle something around for longer than 5 minutes to get to work should never go into production. What was the point of this? To save time because you don't have to solder any wires? I would gladly sit desoldering and resoldering 144-pin fine-pitch SMD chips before having to wriggle one of these Matrix bastards "into alignment" again. Given that most of the installation problems I've been reading about revolves around this very issue should be a clue. In frustration, I gave up and desoldered the damn pogo pins, soldered nice little header pins into the LPC port and then fit the Matrix chip and permanently soldered it to the new LPC port pins. And I don't trust the pogo pins thing. Give your Xbox a nice jolt and you'll surely be "out of alignment" again!

- WinLPC.exe didn't work on two out of three computers that I tried it on. Completely lame software! And what's with the 20 delay settings and 32-bit offset value? Does it actually do something useful? I had to look in the .ini file to make sure it was actually setting something. If you can't make a GUI program that's user-friendly, why not just stick to a DOS command line executable?

- Why can't I reprogram the flash while the chip's in the machine. It couldn't have been too hard to reorient things so the damn LPT port monstrosity with a 9V sticking out of it could connect to the chip while it's in the Xbox. Or you could just supply a keyed ribbon cable to connect the two. In fact, if you did that one could program the flash while the Xbox is on and you could draw power from the LPC port making the 9V unnecessary.

In short, I spent orders of magnitude more time jiggling the Matrix around and trying to find a computer WinLPC.exe would work on than it would have taken me to solder all 29 wires for a homebrew chip.

I think these issues are not the fault of Matrix but you, because you have mentioned a list of issues you had with Matrix but I have not any of those issues with my Matrix so I think you must fix yourself before giving the blame on the Matirx. smile.gif
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2003, 06:34:00 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2003, 01:25:00 PM »

QUOTE (manschadow @ Jan 16 2003, 01:20 PM)

I think these issues are not the fault of Matrix but you, because you have mentioned a list of issues you had with Matrix but I have not any of those issues with my Matrix so I think you must fix yourself before giving the blame on the Matirx. smile.gif

Consider yourself very lucky that you haven't had these issues. And it can't completely be my fault if all these other people are having the same issues. The fact that I found 3 seperate websites with different FAQ's about installing this chip and the problems they had tells me that I'm not the only the person to blame. And I'm not trying to blame anyone here, but I think Xodus could do a lot better with their product. But I suppose in a world where you're used to rebooting windows every couple of hours, people are used to these low standards of reliability and user-friendliness.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2003, 01:31:00 PM »

QUOTE (shamelessbill @ Jan 16 2003, 01:38 PM)
Here's a thought. Next time buy a solder in chip. Don't bitch about something thats been so expansively discussed and you still went and purchased. I can't believe your ignorrant post.

You've just been nominated for dumbass of 2003.
Here's your sign.
SB

First of all, I didn't purchase the chip. I installed this for somebody else. Secondly, anything that's been so "expansively discussed" should be dealt with by the vendor and I hope more people are made aware of these issues so they don't make the same "ignorant" mistake my friend did. Oh yeah, my friend must be a complete idiot for buying something that's hard to use and install. Let's blame it on the customer and not ask the vendor to address these issues. That's how all businesses should run. Yeah, that'sreal smart!

And by the way, it's spelled ignorant, not "ignorrant."

Thanks for the nomination but I think you deserve it more than I do. Here's your sign back.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2003, 02:09:00 PM »

QUOTE (echolizer @ Jan 16 2003, 02:34 PM)
ahehaeh well said laugh.gif

Wow. That was a really thoughtful response. Maybe you should be nominated?
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2003, 03:48:00 PM »

Um I had zero problems with the Matrix that 5 minutes on the net didn't solve.  Sure I spent 5 hours trying to align it only to find out that it had been aligned right the entire time and every time, had I just taken the 5 minutes to check the net I would have known that.  As for the flashing that again was just a quick search in these forums for the exact error I was getting and I found the answer immediatly (you have to pinch it a bit sometimes to get it to flash).  Other than that it was a cake walk and I programmed and installed a friend's inside of 10 minutes the next day.  It is rather simple and childs play once you know the little nuances of it.  Sounds like ID-10T problems to me (and I had some of the exact same ones, all which could have been solved in a minute or two had I just taken the initiative instead of being a bull in a china closet).

As for the reprogramming it in the machine you can, you just have to have it in dedicated mode and I believe the new evolution x dash will update it for you.

WinLPC not working?  Well if WinLPC didn't work on those computers nothing else would have either whether it be milk or anything of the like.  The reason it has a delay slider and choices is so it will work on the greatest number of computers.  On my Athlon I don't have to give it any delay to work, but on my 200mhz dell CPX-i I have to move it all the way over.  This is due to the difference in the port handleing.

And you REALLY don't have to jiggle it around for 5 minutes, all you have to do is line the center of the 6 holes up and tighten it down while keeping them lined up and it works every time.  I mean geeze I'm a n00b at this and I had it working first time out (again I thought it wasn't because of MY error on not checking to see if it should even be getting the green flashing light).

Not to mention nice thing is if your XBox blows up and you have to get it serviced by MS the Pogo Pin method is far less invasive and far easier to go back from than soldering.  Try Desoldering an Xecutor, sending the XBox in to be serviced and convincing them you didn't do anything to it.

Finally as for good jolt and it's out of alignment again.  I shook the crude out of my XBox put pressure on the mod itself and everything I could short of something that would damage the XBox and the ONLY way it went out of alignment is when I used both hands and a decent amount of force turning the mod itself to get it to go out of alignment.  I highly doubt anything like that is going to happen to the XBox through normal wear and tear.

Man I love how some people always are there to blame everyone else when they could have taken the initiative and found the solution in little time.  Great society of laziness we live in these days.
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2003, 05:19:00 PM »

Well said.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2003, 07:01:00 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2003, 07:50:00 PM »

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Jred

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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2003, 07:52:00 PM »

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You matrix fanboys are just a bunch of stupid faggots, (I'm so stupid I can't solder seven little wires DUH, think I'll rip on executer now because I'm too stupid to know any better) you should just go die  


Damn you are smooth.  Who says we don't like soldering.  I soldered my PS1 and PS2.  Life is easier without heating up metal objects and inserting them.  But i'm sure you like it that way.

j/k  i'm not a flamer
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