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[MURDERER]

Good Job! We all thank you!

iMURDERER

[Knuck3ls]

TSOP flashing is still stupid, it's a money saver, I guess, but still stupid.

[BenJeremy]

I don't see any reason at all that the X2 (Lite or Pro) couldn't flash the TSOP exactly the same way as the Matrix.

As for being a no-solder TSOP flash, the pictures in the tutorial clearly show soldered connections being made, particularly to the pins on the TSOP. I guess conductive grease could be used, but that could be pretty messy and a bit hairy, in actual practice. VIAs are hard enough to hit with solder, let alone taped to the board.

Personaly, I'm not too keen on flashing the TSOP, anyway.

I'm of a mind for an X2 because of the larger BIOS capability, and the Lite in particular because of the 2x512k multi-BIOS.

[Knuck3ls]

It doesn't have anything over it, besides being solderless, which I thought was a big deal. But, after 20+ times of re-aligning the chip, I sold it and ordered an X2:Lite

[MURDERER]

The X2 cannot be made to flash the TSOP. The big difference is that d0 is hardware/software controlled on the Matrix. D0 on the X2 is not controlled by any hardware, therefore it would be quite difficult to control d0 properly in order to enable a flash on the XBOX TSOP chip. D0 on the X2 is hardwired to ground.

iMURDERER

[knowledgeiv]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Jan 1 2003, 03:57 PM)

As for being a no-solder TSOP flash, the pictures in the tutorial clearly show soldered connections being made, particularly to the pins on the TSOP. I guess conductive grease could be used, but that could be pretty messy and a bit hairy, in actual practice. VIAs are hard enough to hit with solder, let alone taped to the board.

Those pictures are just to reference the points to make contact.  When you use the grease all you need to connect are the write-enable jumpers for the TSOP on the bottom and top of the mobo (very simple connection).  That's the beauty of this method; you don't have to mess with the pins on the TSOP.  And then whether you solder or not, the choice is up to you.

[BenJeremy]

QUOTE (MURDERER @ Jan 1 2003, 01:23 PM)

The X2 cannot be made to flash the TSOP. The big difference is that d0 is hardware/software controlled on the Matrix. D0 on the X2 is not controlled by any hardware, therefore it would be quite difficult to control d0 properly in order to enable a flash on the XBOX TSOP chip. D0 on the X2 is hardwired to ground. iMURDERER

Huh?

The D0 is connected via an external wire, won't a switch handle the necessary chore? IT should be easy enough to break the D0 connection to the X2.

[ZildjianKX]

Why not just get an X2 Pro with pogo pins?

[Knuck3ls]

 

[MURDERER]

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Jan 2 2003, 02:25 AM)

Huh? The D0 is connected via an external wire, won't a switch handle the necessary chore? IT should be easy enough to break the D0 connection to the X2.

Yea, a switch that is software controlled could handle the chore. Too bad d0 on the X2 isn't microprocessor controlled like the Matrix.

iMURDERER

[obiwan]

Like said before

The reason no other LPC mod can flash the TSOP is because they are not
hardware controlled

Matrix Has a PIC that proccesses the reset signals realtime and can
control the D0 point.

This is how it flips in time to use the Flashing TSOP trick.
It cannot be done with an external switch becuase its up to perfect timing.

Bottom line, Yu cannot flash the TSOP with an LPC mod other than the MatriX

[senator]

[knowledgeiv]

QUOTE (senator @ Jan 2 2003, 09:58 AM)

Matrix is good, But very soon it will be time to solder the bitch in as we know pogo pins are garbage....Been good since install, but had the dreaded flashin light syndrome. Dropped the box from 2 inches height then started working....I do not want to fix it this way too many more times...So it will be a header pin/ plug set up shortly....

Use a bigger screw and you won't ever have to worry about that bitch moving.

[.HasH.]

 but if not, what the heck, sum of the stuff u guys write is very entertaining!  

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