Topic: Why Does The Size Of The Bios Matter? (Read 291 times)

Wes Ide · « **on:** December 22, 2002, 06:19:00 PM »

I think the topic and description sum it up, but why does it matter? Why is it a big thing that Matrix will go from 256k to 1m? What can it do now that it couldn't before? What's it matter?

deltop · « **Reply #1 on:** December 22, 2002, 06:25:00 PM »

At the moment all bioses are 256k unless your using a debug bios.

But who knows what goodies may be round the corner that may require a larger bios!

=ByTcHS|AppA= · « **Reply #2 on:** December 22, 2002, 06:45:00 PM »

For everybody to run round and say - "I've got a bigger bios than you - na na na na na na" - or like ppl wif big cars...compensating for something else...

krazyK · « **Reply #3 on:** December 22, 2002, 07:10:00 PM »

The xBox comes with a 1mb bios to begin with so having a modchip bios of the same size only makes sense. Soon enough the 256kb bios that is common now will not be enough by the end of the xBox's life cycle.

cykiller · « **Reply #4 on:** December 22, 2002, 07:11:00 PM »

matrix is mainly thinking about the future, getting or not doesnt matter, no real good things for it now, kinda how when u first brought your box and now u have god things coming to u

krazyK · « **Reply #5 on:** December 22, 2002, 07:18:00 PM »

QUOTE (cykiller @ Dec 23 2002, 02:11 AM)

matrix is mainly thinking about the future, getting or not doesnt matter, no real good things for it now, kinda how when u first brought your box and now u have god things coming to u

Well said!

mickey123 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 22, 2002, 08:37:00 PM »

that's what competition is about better products and a cheaper price.

crackz0r · « **Reply #7 on:** December 22, 2002, 08:50:00 PM »

the price of the 1mb is attractive for sure, especially since it can be used as a soldered standalone.. personally i'd rather not solder a damn thing, although i'm fairly good at it.. anywayz..

crackz0r · « **Reply #8 on:** December 22, 2002, 09:13:00 PM »

QUOTE (Col.Havoc @ Dec 23 2002, 05:07 AM)

I'm still contemplating on whether or not to get the addon for it. I'll have to wait and see if it is truly worth the wile.

Anyways, does anyone actually know yet how it attaches to the Matrix? I'm guessing it will be across the tops of the pogo pins or on top of the previous chip somehow.

on top of the pogo pins would make the most sense i think.. although it would prolly have to disable the other chip somehow right? oh well who knows.. i'm still waiting for my matrix to arrive (damn holiday mail is gonna be the death of me), but i don't think i'll be bothering with this upgrade until it becomes a necessity.

POTF · « **Reply #9 on:** December 22, 2002, 10:51:00 PM »

QUOTE (Allistar @ Dec 23 2002, 12:41 AM)

What do you consider the pogo pin adapter for the executer then?

Too little, too late. (After the New Year's? Come on.)

SoulMaster · « **Reply #10 on:** December 22, 2002, 10:57:00 PM »

Yeah, but who really wants to use the pogo adapter. Whoops, it came loose. Gotta get in and straighten it out.
Do this about 5 times and you will be ready to solder.
Solder rules all.
SoulMaster

Nailed · « **Reply #11 on:** December 22, 2002, 11:17:00 PM »

deltop · « **Reply #12 on:** December 23, 2002, 03:08:00 AM »

I agree, I just bought my xbox so I could have gone down 2 different routes.

Matrix(non-solder) or X-Ecuter 2(solder). I took the solder option with pin-header. Because I'm reasonable competent at soldering and liked the way it's easy to add switches plus I can use 2 different bioses. I can also easily remove the chip if necessary.

However I do know a friend who can't solder and I'm not so good at it that I wouldn't worry about frying his board. So I'll be getting a matrix for him. Or possible an X-Ecuter 2 with pogo pin adapter depending on when it's released.

Competition can only be good for us it gives us more choices and encourages inovation.

So I'm all for both chips, in the end it's us the end users that benefit.

biosboy · « **Reply #13 on:** December 23, 2002, 07:31:00 AM »

QUOTE (Allistar @ Dec 23 2002, 05:41 AM)

QUOTE (gamerx @ Dec 22 2002, 08:54 PM)

I think matrix is just trying to cover their ass to keep their share of the market and try to keep people from going with x2 instead.

What do you consider the pogo pin adapter for the executer then?

Thought so.

cecuter THEMSELVES said that doing the pogo adapter was lame and they didnt want to even get into it

they are only offering it for idiot noobs like you

in the meantime i'm using the superior and cheaper x2

game on !

biosboy · « **Reply #14 on:** December 23, 2002, 07:32:00 AM »

QUOTE (Allistar @ Dec 23 2002, 06:04 AM)

QUOTE (POTF @ Dec 22 2002, 11:51 PM)

QUOTE (Allistar @ Dec 23 2002, 12:41 AM)

What do you consider the pogo pin adapter for the executer then?

Too little, too late. (After the New Year's? Come on.)

I agree. However, it's still an attempt to "gain market share" as our little friend above tried to rationalize.

Are people who diss the matrix just pissed off that they bought a solder chip before the matrix came out or something? I don't understand all the hate towards the matrix. The "costs more" point is nonsense, the "but it doesnt need to be soldered" point is also invalid. As long as there's a strong electrical connection, it's as good as or better (no need to desolder if you decide to remove the modchip) than any of the available solder chips. The "in it for the money" line can be taken one of several ways. If they're fans of x-ecuter, then they also have to keep in mind that they're releasing a pogo-pin adapter to get INTO the non-solder market.

Why can't we all agree to disagree and stop trying to bash one thing or another? I've seen one too many people in #xbox-scene and #xbox on efnet spewing lines of bullshit so that the matrix sounds bad, in favor of the x-ecuter.

the hate is trhere cus all you noobs look at them like they did something ?

all they did was copy a FREE design and sell it for a LOT of profit - and you all kiss their asses

and xecuter are doing the pogo adapter ONLY cus they're sick of being asked for it. In their words its lame and is a disastor and will only be clear how shit it is the in the fullness of time - they also DISCOURAGE you from buying it - yeah they really wanna get you to pay as much money as possible lol

fucking idiots the lot of you

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