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madmatt

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« on: November 25, 2002, 04:26:00 PM »
Just so I am absolutely clear on this, and yes I have been doing alot of reading not just copping out with asking question before reading. The only advantages the x-ecuter 2 has over the matrix is 1meg rom and multibios correct? Why would you need anymore than whats available on the current available bioses anyway? A new bios wont make a backup work that wouldnt before will it (like on a finicky thomson dvd drive)? A new bios wont make your system read cdr's suddenly, correct? You dont need to flash the xbox media player to the bios for it to work do you? All Ive really seen is the in game reset, different colored screens and stuff like that. What could possibly demand needing more than the 256K ?(not being a matrix fanboy as I dont have one, I really want to know so I can make an educated decision) If anyone could tell me what things might be on the horizon that would require this, could you please let me know. Also what benefit does multi bios have? Does it help recover if a bad flash, or just to switch between bios versions easily (and why would you want to?) Please help me out as I have an x2 pro preordered, but am not a patient person. So with the delays I was thinking of cancelling my preorder and getting the matrix. Also 1 final question : can the matrix be soldered or do you have to go no solder?
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madmatt

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2002, 04:29:00 PM »
BTW I have a v1 box with 4034 bios/kernal version with a Thomson dvd. Just in case someone asks.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2002, 07:12:00 PM »
x-ecutor 2  - 1meg bios size and multi bios.  and most important i would think is the option of soldering, or pogoing

matrix - flash the tsop if you wanna help ur friends a bit when they don't wanna spend so much money.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2002, 10:16:00 PM »
QUOTE (Col.Havoc @ Nov 26 2002, 12:28 AM)
there would be no need for more that 256k.

                                    basically;)
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Gamer

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2002, 12:27:00 AM »
My experience is that Xodus gives shyte customer support, while I have had great support from Team X-ecutor
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2002, 12:34:00 AM »
QUOTE (Gamer @ Nov 26 2002, 07:27 AM)
My experience is that Xodus gives shyte customer support, while I have had great support from Team X-ecutor

totally oposite.  Team Xecuter will bash their own customers.  Team Xodus (Matrix) is MUCH more professional when it comes to public relations.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2002, 12:43:00 AM »
QUOTE (Gamer @ Nov 26 2002, 07:39 AM)
Like I said, just my experience with the 2 groups

                                    I speak from my experiences too.  There have been a lot of posts about how crappy the Xecuter P.R. is.  The Xodus team always gives me a fast and friendly response when I have inquires.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2002, 03:49:00 AM »
QUOTE (duff @ Nov 26 2002, 07:43 AM)
The Xodus team always gives me a fast and friendly response when I have inquires.

                                    Same here.  I even got a random e-mail from them complementing my Matrix A-Z Guide on my tutorials page.  happy.gif
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james_row

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2002, 04:42:00 AM »
Not taking installation issues into account, the biggest benefit of X2 over Matrix is the size of BIOS you can stuff in it. Basically, you have 1MB over 256K. For the average gamer, this isn't much a disadvantage though, as long as your modchip does what its designed for, you're covered. Most modchip now is capable of doing things that wasn't possible before and all that fits in 256k. It may be a while before they break the 256k limit, unless they decide to put everything in the BIOS, which is very unlikely.

Now, if you happen to be one of those who are very obsess with every release of BIOS available, having 1M allows you to have 4 different BIOSes (4x256). Frankly, I don't see any reason for doing that, as basically, every BIOS out there pretty much do the same thing, and offers the same capability. The more important issue here, really is, being able to flash your modchip, and both chips already came with that feature.



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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2002, 05:32:00 AM »
QUOTE (Col.Havoc @ Nov 26 2002, 12:28 AM)
But, if Matrix releases what they hinted at (a bios capable of loading a bios of the HDD) then, there would be no need for more that 256k.

                                    When was this hinted, it sound just the ticket.

I'm still waiting to see if I'm going to update the 2.5 bios I'm currently running.
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Gamer

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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2002, 07:50:00 AM »
I would like to correct my previous comment. I based that comment on the service I received from Easybuy2000.com, and not direct service from the Xodus team. So far, the Xodus team have given me great support directly, but not so hot service from the Easybuy2000 team smile.gif
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2002, 08:22:00 AM »
QUOTE (Gamer @ Nov 26 2002, 02:50 PM)
I would like to correct my previous comment. I based that comment on the service I received from Easybuy2000.com, and not direct service from the Xodus team. So far, the Xodus team have given me great support directly, but not so hot service from the Easybuy2000 team smile.gif

                                    True, Easybuy really sucks and people always think its the fault of the Xodus team. You should see the Easybuy 2K forum, 99% of the post must be called "Fuck you Xodus!"...

Anyways, their website was announcing some big news for next week, would be cool if it was that "magic" bios that can load another bios from the HDD !
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2002, 09:50:00 AM »
QUOTE (Col.Havoc @ Nov 26 2002, 12:28 AM)
All it has over the Matrix is a bigger bios storing size, thats it.

But, if Matrix releases what they hinted at (a bios capable of loading a bios of the HDD) then, there would be no need for more that 256k.

Its up to you.

                                    I love posts like these - from guys who seem to know their shit

heres what it has over the matrix

1) made by the guys who crack the bios's in the first place
2) multi kernel choices (WITHOUT butchering your onboard flash)
3) external programming from PC - never go inside xbox again
4) 1MB flash
5) YOU get to choose how you connect - you are not forced to buy pogo pins
6) support by xecuter - they dont rely on someone else to write software
7) there'll be dozens of resellers - very competitive with FAST delivery - not 4 weeks easybuy service
8) oh and its a LOT cheaper - just a small point there

just a FEW points why its better
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2002, 09:54:00 AM »
QUOTE (iam @ Nov 26 2002, 03:22 PM)
QUOTE (Gamer @ Nov 26 2002, 02:50 PM)
I would like to correct my previous comment. I based that comment on the service I received from Easybuy2000.com, and not direct service from the Xodus team. So far, the Xodus team have given me great support directly, but not so hot service from the Easybuy2000 team smile.gif

True, Easybuy really sucks and people always think its the fault of the Xodus team. You should see the Easybuy 2K forum, 99% of the post must be called "Fuck you Xodus!"...

Anyways, their website was announcing some big news for next week, would be cool if it was that "magic" bios that can load another bios from the HDD !

                                    their "big" news was SOMEONE else (evox) making a 256k bios for v1.1

so not only did xecuter steal their thunder - they have to (yet again) rely on someone else to give support

when will you people learn xodus have ZERO idea how to code bios or anything else. The only thing they've coded is a shitty 12c508 pic to control and LED - you can get the source from any radio shack representative.

stop being fanboys will you - all their work is someone elses (numbnutt's , evox's - none of it is done by them - all they did that was slightly innovative - and only good for noobs - is pogo's - and if you want to see how thsi has ruined the scene - join efnet and check out the crap that ops have to sift through to give a good service)

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2002, 10:09:00 AM »
who is being a fan boy now? what ? ruined the scene? (now thats a laught)

opinions are made by the people that actually have the chip and those that want to know about it... not fed by ops or people that are fans of other chips

I was once a n00b on this but i sat down and did my research and got a MatriX (one of the first orders sent out i must say)

Its a damn good chip and I put my word on it that it did everything it promised! and more
Yes it has external support by other groups like EvoX and such but Xodus offer a great support
when it comes to their product (not like other makers) I have been treated so good with the support scheme they have and I must admit they are realy profesional with their work.

So what if they didnt code a bios! neither did PC-BIOXX/OpenXbox... I dont see you guys bashing at them... its clearly made known that Xecuter lost alot of sales due to the MatriX since its release and they are trying to badmouth every move they make by saying "oh they cant make bioses"

Hello!!! They are a legal chip making group (like Bioxx) Its clear that they dont want to end up in courts (like how Xecuter might do if they keep up their cheering about their Bios)

I myslef think its great that EvoX decided to keep the MatriX project alive by supporting it the way they do, and i expect to see more from them since they have proven that their skills are great. (love your dash Evox!)  The scene wouldnt be anywhere without the Evox Dash and harddisk patch!

So enough already about no support! Its all a fable and the bashing should stop!
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