Topic: "future Bios Releases Will Be On At Least 512k." (Read 290 times)

Crying_freeGazz · « **on:** November 22, 2002, 07:09:00 AM »

I'm interested too

rjm2k · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2002, 07:17:00 AM »

QUOTE (glyndwr @ Nov 22 2002, 01:59 PM)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my spangly new Matrix chip has 256Kb flash and not 1Mb, correct? So once 512kb BIOSs come out I'm looking for a new chip, right? Because I just know that BIOS will feature some incredible feature I cannot live without.

Who said that? Team x-ecutor or evox? If it's x-ecutor, then it's tough, they can do what they like with the bios since it's only in their interest for it to run on their chip.

Frenetic · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2002, 07:21:00 AM »

What could you possibly need more? what feature could you not live without??

Bloodsent · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2002, 07:48:00 AM »

Here is my question, are they referring to future releases 512k or higher for BOTH v1.0 and v1.1, or just v1.1? They said that they had to take time to get the IGR to fit on 256k for the v1.1, but released it without mentioned problems for the v1.0. Does this mean that future v1.0 bioses can still be 256k?

biosboy · « **Reply #4 on:** November 22, 2002, 08:11:00 AM »

what the hell are you lot talking about ?

it makes commercial sense

?

why because their codes will work on all homebrew and all openbox devices as well as their own ?

yeah they really keep it a secret so they can fool people like xodus

shouldnt you all be saying why dont xodus upgrade their mnod to 1MB for that extra $2 like they should have done - you know why not? becuase they free design they used was 256k and there has been no public 1MB LPC flash design - i.e. they have no innovation to do it themselves

instead of crying about the future flashes not being 256k - perhaps you should just upgrade your mods to the next level - after all you're saving how much money

?

the truth is the only bitching is from matrix owners - openbox, homebrew and xecuter customers are very happy

so dont bitch about the size of your flash to anyone else but the people who gave you one that wouldn't be future proof

frekkle · « **Reply #5 on:** November 22, 2002, 09:24:00 AM »

who said its not future proof?

i myslef run a Matrix with another 2x256k & 1x512k bioses on my TSOP

1x512k (complex debug Kit)
1x256k Evox 2.6
1x256k Original MS 4034
1x256k (Evox + MatriX + Tsop flasher) on the matrix

This was not a known feature until a recent discovery of Evox

not to mention that i can make money from my chip this way

steinola · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2002, 10:11:00 AM »

Jesus... haven't we been talking about this for months now??

Yes, Xecutor has said they'll only release 512K bios from now on.
Yes, a 512K bios will not fit on a matrix.
No, that doesn't make your Matrix obsolete... just a little behind.
You'll still be able to use it to do everything you need. If there's a feature in a 512K bios that you simply "must have", well, that's between you and your Id. When that Palm OS version of Battle Droids only ran on color screens, did you bitch about the fact that you had to make a choice between replacing your brand new Palm Vx, or doing without Battle Droids? Wait... don't answer that
I'd hasten to guess that there will still be 256K bios' released, just not by the Xecutor team.

Give it a rest.

ciscojim · « **Reply #7 on:** November 22, 2002, 11:05:00 AM »

evox released evox 3.6 (v1.1) and evox 2.6 (1.0) both 256k

Also executer released X2 their new bios also for v1.1 and v1.0 with all the features at 256k

no waiting

Flagg3 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2002, 11:41:00 AM »

This debate is really getting tiring.

It's hysterical how Team X-ecuter keeps ridiculing the Matrix in every news release and complaining that it should have been designed better, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Kind of ironic coming from the team that brought you the original X-ecuter that cannot be flashed or upgraded at all. If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

The fact is that the Matrix is one of the most innovative modchips to ever be created. Is it perfect? Of course not. Nothing is. But I'll tell you this, in all of my years of modding which goes back to way before we used modchips in videogame systems (Cable boxes, atari hacking, etc.) this is by far the easiest modchip to install and configure. (Once you know all its quirks. It is VERY quirky and takes some time when you first install one.)

It also happens to be the best modchip you can buy today. Will the X-ecuter II pro be better? Maybe, but the Matrix should have a nice long life ahead of it regardless. Despite what the X-cuter team would lead you to believe, there is PLENTY of room left in the BIOS if necessary. I guarantee that any new must have feature that Team X-ecuter claims requires so much more space Team Evox will magically figure out how to fit it into 256k.

If you own a Matrix, don't sweat it. The Evox team has shown that they are committed to keeping the Matrix a viable solution for the near future and if the rumored BIOS load from the HD ever appears then the whole argument will be moot anyway.

Bottom line: The only two chips that I would even consider are the X-cuter II pro or the Matrix. Both will serve you well for the foreseeable future. While I appreciate everything that Team X-ecuter has done for the scene they really need to quit screaming sour grapes and instead try to understand what made the Matrix so popular and work to improve on that design instead of complaining about it.

Flagg

Schmo · « **Reply #9 on:** November 22, 2002, 11:58:00 AM »

QUOTE (Scan-C @ Nov 22 2002, 04:34 PM)

yeah and when you screwed some boxes cause the flash went wrong you're not making any money but pay.tsop flashing is bad.get a new mod and not those 256 kb,noob pin connecting shit.the matrix is not only a bad designed mod its dangerous.if it short something on the xbox mobo your xbox could be dead.i saw that happen to times.the matrix became unaligned and shorted some points.the complete tsop and the matrix were toast.luckily i had a homebrew left that i installed in the box of my friend.it boots up fine but that a mod chip killed the box is something that should not happen

Ugh. Why is everything black and white around here. Why are people feel they have to be on one side or the other?

Solder mod = supreme modder extraordinaire
Pogo mod = noob neophyte idiot

I don't get it. I will agree that alot of people that have no business whatsoever to be inside the workings of an XBOX are trying because of the marketing behind the pogo pin adapters hence there are a lot of noob and unskilled people screwing up their XBOXes by installing a pogo pin chip.

On the other hand, there are alot of us that ARE capable of soldering and working with electronics that just choose not to bother. I have had no problems with my Matrix so far and if I want to upgraded to an X2 when there is an absolute need, I will just chuck it.

As for screwing up the XBOX by a bad flash... it is just as likely to screw up an XBOX by a bad solder job too. Lets face reality, no matter what mod chip you use, you can screw up the XBOX if you aren't careful.

I have probably been working with computers (hardware and software) longer than a good chunk of people on this board have been alive. Not that makes me an expert or better than anyone but I am far from a noob as you say and don't appreciate being lumped into that group just because of my choice. I am sure I speak for several of us.

On a side note, I think the X2 is going to be a wonderful chip BUT there is still a place for the Matrix. Its a good thing we don't all like the same thing or else this place we live would be awfully boring.

glyndwr · « **Reply #10 on:** November 22, 2002, 01:06:00 PM »

QUOTE (biosboy @ Nov 22 2002, 03:11 PM)

so dont bitch about the size of your flash to anyone else but the people who gave you one that wouldn't be future proof

I wasn't bitching, I was just asking. If there ever is a bigger-than-256Kb BIOS I decide I want, then obviously I have to gamble on flashing the TSOP or I have to replace the chip. I was just confirming this was the case because I'm new at this Xbox stuff and wasn't 100% sure the Matrix only had a 256Kb flash on it.

Thanks to those who informed my ass without flaming it...

alee132 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 22, 2002, 01:27:00 PM »

shit all i seem to hear is complaining, if xecuter is and will be coming out with the best bios's in my opinion, then if they need to be bigger make them bigger, I don't care, right now I still have my good old trusy xecuter original in my xbox and my next chip with be the X2 pro. With the pin and header attachment, because I will only have to suck the solder out of the holes unattach the wire and they just put it in there for a good connection. I can't wait till this live shit is bypassed, m$ pissing off.

biosboy · « **Reply #12 on:** November 22, 2002, 06:29:00 PM »

QUOTE (Flagg3 @ Nov 22 2002, 06:41 PM)

The fact is that the Matrix is one of the most innovative modchips to ever be created.

Dark Schneider · « **Reply #13 on:** November 22, 2002, 09:05:00 PM »

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And then there's X-ecuter team. So you think they are bashing the Matrix in their releases huh? I think they are bashing the idiots like all of us that go off the handle spouting shit we know little about, and accusations that we know even less about.

Bottom line, it's not the chip, it's the person installing it.

Unfortunately guys, going from the posts that we have all seen sodomize our lovely forum here. Well...Generation Matrix should never have touched let alone opened their Xbox.

bagel5009 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 23, 2002, 01:05:00 AM »

couldnt u just split it?

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