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[tmac852]

uh ppl...

with this mod u can simply install it update the bios remove it and install it in 20other xbox's...

i remember reading that awhile ago...

so why would it matter if it moves or shit?

btw...the ppl that think itll like twist around and shit cuz its only one screw...dont u think they tested that shit?

lol

[opjose]

It's an LPC mod, you can't update the on board BIOS and remove it.

The only thing you will be flashing is the LPC mod itself.

[Ronnie]

tmac852,after you take it off the xbox is in its original state,the original bios is not flashed only the xodus chip.So if you bought it you wouldnt want to take it off.

And you think everything ever made is reliable?When people get their chips they will let everyone know how it goes.

Shit n Shit

[opjose]

QUOTE (RickH @ Sep 23 2002, 03:30 AM)

Tell me why I am the only person here thinking how dumb this idea is. Don't you guys realize how unreliable a compression fit on something like this will be??? Do you realize the heat stresses exerted on all the components inside the X-Box will make this thing very, VERY unreliable after just a short time? I don't want to burst your bubble but I can see a couple problems with this. Any item that relies on pressure to hold the 9-10 pins in place is guaranteed to fail. I know they are giving you people what you want but a soldered on Xecuter will be much more reliable in the long run than any compression fit device. This new mod will be lucky if it works for a couple of weeks before becoming intermittent. Heating inside the machine is going to cause intermittent contact on the pads and cause the installation to fail within a short period of time not to mention corrosion.

                                    This is very true.

I have all too much experience with this very scenario.

Anyone here ever get a bad Network RJ-45 connector contact due to corrosion, coating, humidity, weakened springs, etc.

Same thing here.

While I'm sure that people will have great luck with the new mod (that is for those with pre August Xboxes) this will prove to be somewhat problematic.

Yes, soldered chips are better. But on the other hand, wow are there a lot of screwed up Xboxes floating around due to people who have no right to pick up an iron.

[M3_DeL]

       but yeah guys lets get real here.....when executer was in the mix of being developed everyone was pissed and saying it couldn't be done blah blah blah.......then it came out and it worked and it was the easiest to install. and mine works flawlessly People are just pissed because they installed 5,000 wires on theirs and now there is an easier one out. Xodus is nice......The only thing that might hinder sales is the fact that new xbox's are resisting chips Might have taken to long to start selling (for newbs at least)  
        Shout out to all the xbox-scene newbs
Like myself

[kkattfish]

i'm with opjose and the whole bad rj-45 connector comparison.  i have had this problem and can see it happening with the xodus, however after a month or so we'll see what everyone is saying, if it's still holding strong maybe just maybe i will get one, however then i would have to find a box made before 8-2 so who knows.

[82ross]

I dont think overscrewing would lift the other side of the chip up, the screw has a pretty large diameter with respect to the chip. It would have been nicer to have a couple more ways to clamp it down but thats the limitations of the board (glue and tape might help). I hope someone gets some underside chip pics soon.

The corrosion, coating, humidity, weakened springs problems, should be minimum as long as people respect what type of chip they have. If its treated correctly it should last a long time, maybe as long as any other component made of the same materials (well maybe not as long, a little less but not as short as some people might think).

If i expected my box to not stay in the same position 99% of the time i would use a solder mod. If your gonna plonk you box next to your tele and hardy ever move it, this mod could be perfect. Only time will tell imo, highly dependant on the quality of its manufacturing and design.

Ill wait till i get a hands on look at it. Before then this is all just an vague opinion. Not something id stand by.

[formosauk]

i think rickh is right about the new chip , i said the same about one screw holding it down , and to be honest what is so bad about soldering a chip that you wont ever have to take off anyway .soldering it on and getting it to work is all part of the fun .
if you really dont like soldering why dont you just buy an xbox already modified.
im getting a pcbioxx.

[RickH]

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[captain1284]

im glad this chip has finally arrived it should stop all the noobs moaning
about how crap the executer just because they carnt solder and killed
another box.
got to agree with rickh in a few weeks time i expect to see posts about
how crap this chip is just because theyve got to pop the top and re seat
the chip.  spring connects are ok for short term use but for prolonged use
its just asking for trouble..
i hope im wrong about this but i doubt it

[jjstecchino]

[DaGamePimp]

__ Heat issues should not bother this chip ... period ! The issues described can effect any electronic device so why bring it up now - sheesh ! The only time that electronics suffer from extreme corrosion is when you have frequent temp. fluctuations of a considerable difference . Remember this is a pressure hold down so if the solder contracts and expands [ which it will on a very small scale ] this device should hold firm along with the changing contact points . I am not proclaiming this chip to be superior to any other but why does everyone knock it down before even seeing it first hand . This chip will certainly have a place in the scene and yes it is not for everyone as I still think a soldered solution is best but you certainly cannot argue with this chip for those that should not be soldering [ which is most of the Xbox owners out there ] .
__Give it a chance people ,
-[DGP]-

[RickH]

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[Dark Schneider]

I'll be the first one to say that I was skeptical about this so called no solder chip myself, and made quite a few Red/Blue pill posts. But the design of the chip was X-ecuters..lol...and the Mod of the chip to make it a no solder chip is pretty darn neat.

Now I'm not saying it's the best, and yes I did say I would consider getting one myself, but it still has to be put through the rigors of a real world test. So give it a week, and we will see what kind of threads appear about the people using it.

Yes I do see overtorque'd chips becoming a problem, and yes there is the possibility for corrosion around the points that make contact with the board. Gold will not stop this, infact it may cause an electrolisis effect around the surrounding area depending on the trace composition. But that's all BS for now, so we'll just have to see how it goes.

All in all it is what the X-ecuter was supposed to be, but I would still rather have my X-ecuter as it is...and NOT blobbed onto the mainboard might I add.

What everyone was REALLY bashing was the fact that EasyBuy so nonchalantly told everyone that ordered a PcBioxx that they were not getting it, and they decided to give them what THEY wanted to, not what was ordered. So there was a hell of a lot of p.o.'d people out there feeling like they had been scammed. EasyBuy still does suck for doing that , and they did hurt public opinion of the chip in the short term.

[neksone]

QUOTE (bwn82k @ Sep 24 2002, 04:06 AM)

Now some of you are complaining about the fact the X-ecuter came out with that design first. In a way this is true. Xodus just improved it. I don't see anyone flaming Pepsi just because Coke came out first. You really can't change the shape of the chip too much because the design is based on the Xbox's motherboard. You could say that the X-ecuter chip has pioneered a 'generic' shape of these types of mod chips.

                                    good point bwn82k