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[hogfan]

Ok, well I finally got this 1.6 working (was a bios problem.  don't use kernelbasher on m8).  Problem is I don't have any pin headers right now, and the pogo pins don't want to cooperate on my spiderchip.  I didn't want to use the pogo method anyway as I'll be shipping this box to Florida!   So, I decided to go with the old school method.  I soldered a wire to the top contact point of each pogo pin on the chip and then the other end of each wire to it's corresponding lpc point.  Then I connected the LFRAME wire.  Tried to boot it up and all it does is FRAGs.  Before I hard-wired the chip in, I could get it to boot from the chip by holding the chip in contact with the LPC points.   I don't understand why it FRAGs now as it's getting a better connection than before.  It FRAGS either way now - with the remote switch in the "on" & "off" positions.  No wires are crossing or anything like that.  Why am I still getting a FRAG and where should I look now?  I thought soldering this thing to the LPC with wire would be the most reliable method!  Any help is extremely appreciated as I'm about to pull my hair out now.  I've rebuilt the LPC on this box twice, resolved a bios issue and now have the same fragging problem with hard-wire.

[ModdingManiac]

Does it boot with the chip Off...If not then recheck the D0 connection...try removing the D0 connection and see if the xbox still boots with no chip...

[hogfan]

ok, will try that.  I read something in the SmartXX  guide about the LFRAME/D0 wire should not exceed 4 inches in length.  Could this be cause the problem?  If this is the problem, where am I supposed to mount the chip if I can' put to the back shielding w/ doublesided tape?  Thanks for the reply.

[ModdingManiac]

The wire should be short as possible but work with what you have, don't worry about making it a perfect 4 inches or less....You could also find a place on the motherboard instead of the metal shieldings (just not to close to the CPU cause it gets hot) where you can put it with the double side tape

[hogfan]

Ok, the D0 is not the problem.  I'm not sure what to look at now.  Doublechecked every wire to be sure they were all going to the correct LPC points.  Any ideas?  It still FRAGs with the D0 wire disconnected.  Could soldering from the top of LPC have push any of the LPC rebuild wires out from below?  What should I check first?

[hogfan]

Ok, I de-soldered the wire from the LPC and  tried to boot, and now I'm getting the MS bios, which is good.  I guess I will test now to see if the LPC rebuild is still good by holding the chip on with the Pogo pins contacting the LPC.  This is still making no sense to me.  When I de-soldered the wires, no wires were crossing, and there were no solder splashes.  What could be causing the problem with the wires being soldered?  If there was a logical explanation, I would check that, but I can seem to find one.

[ModdingManiac]

How many wires total you got going to the LPC? only A B C D E?

This post has been edited by ModdingManiac: Apr 6 2005, 08:45 PM

[hogfan]

No, a wire for each pogo pin that contacts an LPC point.  Anyway, I rebuilt the LPC for a third time, and now I can even get MS bios to boot.  Guess I'll have to rebuild it again.  I'll be very surprised if I touch another spiderchip after this installation.

[hogfan]

During the LPC rebuild, I lifted a small section of a trace. SHIT!  No I get nothing but FRAGs.  As soon as I get this repaired and working, I will NEVER mod another Xbox again.  This has been 4 days of a total nightmare!  Yeah, I've done 8 boxes before, but only 2 1.6 boxes, this being my third, and I want no part of it anymore.  It's only a short length of a trace.  Fucking hotglue lifted it.  I should be able to fix with a conductive pen?    I'd jumper it, but the via are so damn small I can't get a small enough wire to fit in the hole & there's no metal on it to solder to.  Any suggestions are extremely appreciated. I still don't know what to do about this chip even after I fix the trace.

[ModdingManiac]

Take it to a modder in your area if you don't want to add more problems..A  condective pen will work (if its not big) otherwise a small wire..

[l0gik2]

one way that works to fix a trace.  Which i have done before on car audio amplifiers and many other devices is to follow it to its nearest connections on each side and then solder a wire between those points off the board.  I am having a simlar problem with my xbox 1.6 and a xbit 1.5 modchip m8_16 bios.  Solder installed and LPC rebuild worked beautiful for 3 days.  my Neice drops the xbox from about 4 feet and now it just frags with the chip hooked up.  If i disconnect the modchip it works like a regular unmoded xbox.  I had one small trace get pulled up which i attempted to fix i think its a good connection too.  I haven't checked the LPC voltages yet but I have rebuilt my lpc about 4 times now.  Its driving me crazy.  I hope my suggestion helps you.  Lemme know if you have any ideas on my xbox!

[l0gik2]

one way that works to fix a trace.  Which i have done before on car audio amplifiers and many other devices is to follow it to its nearest connections on each side and then solder a wire between those points off the board.  I am having a simlar problem with my xbox 1.6 and a xbit 1.5 modchip m8_16 bios.  Solder installed and LPC rebuild worked beautiful for 3 days.  my Neice, who is 3, drops the xbox from about 4 feet and now it just goes on and off 3 times to a green/red frag with the chip hooked up.  If i disconnect the modchip it works like a regular unmoded xbox.  I had one small trace get pulled up which i attempted to fix i think its a good connection too.  I haven't checked the LPC voltages yet but I have rebuilt my lpc about 4 times now.  Its driving me crazy.  I hope my suggestion helps you.  Lemme know if you have any ideas on my xbox!