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[PolarBearWY]

@ShadowKnyght

If you are an AppleChip reseller, then I may suggest selling the chips with the pin headers.  I took a look at digikey as someone suggested, but if I remember right, they wanted $3 for the header and footer (?) and wanted to charge a $5 fee (?) for my order being less than the minimum, plus shipping on top of that.  All in all, they wanted more than $10 to ship the parts to me so I said forget it.  It's just a suggestion, but you should consider adding the $3s of parts and shipping them with the chip.  I'd have paid an extra $5 to get the headers with the chip.

[PolarBearWY]

Well, I finally got my chip so I finally got a good look at it.

Question!!!

Is the chip supposed to be installed upside down?  I assume the "square" hole is for LPC pin 1, right?  If so, then the chip would have to be installed upside down, with the d0 and d1 contacts between the motherboard and the mod's board.

Please let me know ASAP.  I'd like to be able to get this installed soon.  Anyone have a pic of an installed AppleX V?

[PolarBearWY]

Well, it's installed !!!  and it booted to the orange 'X' and then I booted it to the green 'X' so I guess it works.  I started the install about 30 minutes after the last post.

A lot of the time came from making the leads as I did the wire install, and I thought d1 was more of a bitch than d0.  I thought alt d0 was cake compared to d1.  In fact, d1 came off after I put the mobo back in the case, and I decided to resolder it with the mobo still in the case.  Lazy... but it works.

Just thought I'd let everyone know that it isn't that bad.  (Not sure why Apple Chip makes the "square" pin on the modchip pin 2, when on the XBox the square LPC hole marks pin 1... but oh well.  Same kind of thing crashed a probe into Mars.. lol.

Edited to add that it took me about 1 hr 20 minutes, from the time I started cutting leads to the time I tested both boots.

[PolarBearWY]

I'll go ahead and add something else... haven't fully messed with Evox Dash and I probably won't until I'm upgrading the hard drive, but the AppleX V does not function well when the original MS dash is renamed, as per Evox instructions.

I'll also note that after the installation of Evox, I was getting the ORANGE boot with both buttons.  This problems seems to have gone away, as I have booted GREEN 5 times in a row (intentionally).

One more thing... I don't know what the hell Apple Chip is talking about!  I don't have to hold the power button on for 1-2 seconds.  It works as if the XBox was unmodded.  A slight and quick press is all I need to boot ORANGE.

[kcarlen]

Arabaldo,

I don't have pics cause I am at work...but look at the MB from the top, with the front facing your chest.  On the right-hand half of the MB, on the very front, there is a male plug that is soldered to the MB, and the yellow connector plugs into that....labelled J2G2.

Now, look at the number below it.  You will see J2G2 and from left to right you will read 2___8.  This means that you want to solder to 2. (the lower left connector on the underside of the board).

Looks something like this

1 3 5 7
2 4 6 8

Solder D1 to this point.

If you happened to fry your resistor....if it does'nt boot or something like that...
Solder in the replacement 100Ohm resistor.  Use the smallest wattage available...as real-estate is prime.

The other side or the feed to the resistor is the pad with a long piece of varnished conductor.  Scratch the surface, prep the copper and solder the resistor to it.  Hot glue the joints and put electrical tape on the open resistor leads.

I will attempt to upload images tonight if you guys think that you need it.

BTW POLARBEARWY, always buy more than one header and post set when you buy from DIGI-KEY.  It makes sense to have more on an order to cover the shipping.  Sell them to your friends or something and split the taxes and shipping.
The header and footer work AWESOME.  (About 5 minutes for install)  Once you do it once, you will never do wires again.

[Troed]

QUOTE (PolarBearWY @ Jan 15 2004, 02:02 AM)

I'll also note that after the installation of Evox, I was getting the ORANGE boot with both buttons.  This problems seems to have gone away, as I have booted GREEN 5 times in a row (intentionally). One more thing... I don't know what the hell Apple Chip is talking about!  I don't have to hold the power button on for 1-2 seconds.  It works as if the XBox was unmodded.  A slight and quick press is all I need to boot ORANGE.

Well then your installation isn't correct. A quick press on power will boot in original mode, and a slightly longer (1 sec) will boot the modbios.

Anything else and something's wrong, either with the installation or maybe with the chip (I have a personal friend who never got anything but a modboot until he installed a separate physcal d0<->ground switch and I trust his installation .. )

Regarding the huge D1 - I need to find the cable to my camera and upload a picture, I guess the explanation above is correct though - I indeed mean the connector, on the bottom side of the motherboard. Use a meter and check continuity between the R3G3 resistor and the pins there and you'll quckliy see it ...

Never guess. If you don't have a picture nor a meter, don't TRY.

[[GS]EqUaTe]

QUOTE (PolarBearWY @ Jan 15 2004, 03:02 AM)

I'll go ahead and add something else... haven't fully messed with Evox Dash and I probably won't until I'm upgrading the hard drive, but the AppleX V does not function well when the original MS dash is renamed, as per Evox instructions.

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I'll go ahead and add something else... haven't fully messed with Evox Dash and I probably won't until I'm upgrading the hard drive, but the AppleX V does not function well when the original MS dash is renamed, as per Evox instructions.

It has been quite some time since evox has required you do this, in fact it is recommended that you do not now.

Leave the original dashboard name as it is, all current bios's look for alternative's first.. (have a look here: http://www.xbox-scen...ios_retail.html)

It lists the various BIOS's and features. I'd recommend the latest xecutor2 bios, as it disables the live service through active scripting.. :-) (no more accidentally being banned!)

[Troed]

QUOTE (Arabaldo @ Jan 15 2004, 04:27 PM)

If I want my xbox to boot up on the chip always, do I need to solder D1? Is it enough to ground just D0?

Solder d0 to ground directly on the Xbox and do nothing with the d0 and d1 pads on the Apple (do short the two pads to allow flashing though).

[PolarBearWY]

QUOTE (Troed @ Jan 15 2004, 06:58 PM)

QUOTE (Arabaldo @ Jan 15 2004, 04:27 PM) If I want my xbox to boot up on the chip always, do I need to solder D1? Is it enough to ground just D0? Solder d0 to ground directly on the Xbox and do nothing with the d0 and d1 pads on the Apple (do short the two pads to allow flashing though).

I would suggest soldering d0 to ground through a switch though.  Never know if you will want to change your mind about it always using the mod, or never know if you will decide to sell your XBox as modified to make a few bucks and buy a new XBox and new chip and mod over again.

[Arabaldo]

Thanks for the help...

/Arabaldo

[PolarBearWY]

QUOTE (Troed @ Jan 15 2004, 02:09 PM)

QUOTE (PolarBearWY @ Jan 15 2004, 02:02 AM) I'll also note that after the installation of Evox, I was getting the ORANGE boot with both buttons.  This problems seems to have gone away, as I have booted GREEN 5 times in a row (intentionally). One more thing... I don't know what the hell Apple Chip is talking about!  I don't have to hold the power button on for 1-2 seconds.  It works as if the XBox was unmodded.  A slight and quick press is all I need to boot ORANGE. Well then your installation isn't correct. A quick press on power will boot in original mode, and a slightly longer (1 sec) will boot the modbios. Anything else and something's wrong, either with the installation or maybe with the chip

I don't think there's anything wrong with the install.  I'm certainly not soldering expert, but the chip is working as intended.

I get GREEN with the eject button.
I get ORANGE with the power button... I just don't have to hold it down.  I may have to hold it down for a whoppin' 0.3 seconds.

It doesn't play backups when it boots GREEN with the eject button.
It DOES play backups when I boot ORANGE with the power button.
It goes to MS Dash when I boot to GREEN with the eject button.
It DOES go to Evox without a disc in tray when I boot to ORANGE.

That's all I really care about.  I'm not going to fret about not having to push the power button in for 2 seconds.  My modchip obviously works without 2 seconds.

[kcarlen]

I've done quite a few installs of the Version V Apple...with mixed results.
Some require 2 seconds, and others don't.
All in all, I guess it is a matter of taste.  The installs all work....

I agree with PB, I still don't know what Apple is talking about with the requirement of holding the power button down.

Maybe our solder job is crap and we are shorting something else???  I have done continuity and resistance checking and all checks out.

I agree.  Weird.  

I personally have an Apple X-III in my unit.  I have never had an issue since I installed back in March of 2003.  It plays all the hard-to-crack backups too, with no issues.
It almost seems like we are going backwards with the Apple XV.  Maybe to do with the applications to all versions perhaps.

[PolarBearWY]

Yeah.

The AppleX V certainly isn't for everyone.  It was recommended to me by someone in a Yahoo Group when I complained around Jan 1 that SMC never had stock.  I was originally looking for the 2.2 or 2.3 Lite+, since I had never touched a soldering gun.  But, I went out and bought the $25 of supplies that I needed, borrowed a multimeter to test whether I had a 1.4 or 1.5, and ended up spending about $10 less than I would have for the Lite+, and I'm walking away with a soldering iron and a B- in soldering skills.. hehehe.

Personally, I don't mind having to eject the tray for normal mode.  I don't store my games in the tray anyway, and I don't use XBL.  I suppose I could only use the chip BIOS all the time and then I don't need to eject the tray.

All in all, I'm very pleased with the AppleX V.  It's "good enough" for what I want to do with it and I think I'd put one in a friend's XBox too, if I was going to mod another.

[Troed]

QUOTE (Troed @ Jan 14 2004, 10:20 AM)

There's a HUGE alternative d1 available when you're already soldering on the bottom side of the motherboard. Some day I guess I'll take a picture of it.

Today is some day.



That's the bottom side of the mb, at the connector where the yellow power/eject cable sits on the top side. That point is equivalent to the official R3G3 resistor point Apple Chip suggests on the top side.

[PolarBearWY]

What AWG is that?  The smallest wiring I could find was 22