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fldude2k1

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30k/sec Ftp Transfer Rate. Is This Normal?
« on: June 17, 2003, 06:56:00 PM »

try using FlashXFP if u arent already
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msn25

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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2003, 06:58:00 PM »

no...thats not normal and not good!

I get around 5-7MBps...others get alot more...

Im not real sure what the problem is cause I myself havent ran into the problem...and i hate when people tell me to do a search for it cause that doesnt solve anything, but i know its out there i just havent researched it.  but its probably something small, not a big problem...
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2003, 07:09:00 PM »

yeah...thats probably your problem!

if you go from PC directly to your XBOX...you should be in good standing!


do you have a crossover cable or straight-thru?

to go from PC -> xbox you need a cross over

if you go PC -> hub/router -> xbox you need a straight-thru

check that out..
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WiLD

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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2003, 07:36:00 PM »

QUOTE (meImyself @ Jun 17 2003, 10:07 PM)
Well I have tried several different ftp clients including FlashFXP and it's the same story. I get almost 30k/sec. I am using 10mb hubs and not 100mb but it seems that I should still be getting around 500k/sec don't you think? I suspect what is happening is that my cable modem is acting as the gateway for all of my devices and so my ftp request are going out and coming back to my modem instead of a direct connection between my PC and my XBOX. I am going to try unplugging my cable modem but then I'm not real sure how I'm going to get the two to communicate directly. Right now my devices are DHCP but that is through my cable modem. Surely there is a way that I can have my cable modem connected to my network and get my PC and XBOX to communicate directly at a faster rate, otherwise it will take me 18hours to transfer 1 game over : (

Dude, your problem might be as simple as a bad network cable.

Your cable modem should be assigning all the devices connected to it non-routable IP's.  If it's doing this (ie, your IPs are 192.168.x.x, or 10.x.x.x) then it will not route them outside the internal network.

First thing I would check is the network cable & port on the hub.   Use another cable in the same port first, then another available port if the problems persist on that port.

If the problem still exists,  you might want to do a quick test with a crossover cable between your PC & XBox - just manually enter IP's for each, like 192.168.0.1 for your PC and 192.168.0.2 for your XBox.  Don't worry about DNS or gateway information, as you won't be going outside a single IP network, and nothing needs to resolve or route.  If the problem goes away, you might be looking at a bad hub.

You should get 300kBps (or better) transferes, even at 10mbit / half duplex.

--EDIT--  Just re-read your post and saw the part about dropping connections.  This really points to a bad cable, a bad hub, or a bad Ethernet port on your xbox.  (maybe your PC, but I'm guessing thats been working fine or you woulda notice.)
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2003, 10:08:00 PM »

QUOTE (meImyself @ Jun 18 2003, 12:37 AM)
I really don't know what is wrong or how to fix it. I too thought that it might be a bad hub/cable so I bypassed one of the hubs and got a new cable to do a direct connection (Xbox, PC and Cable modem all plugged in one 4 port hub) but still get the same 30k/sec. Next, I decided to unplug the cable modem (Xbox, PC plugged into one 4 port hub) but then of course I lost DHCP. While the cable modem was disconnected I also tried giving the PC a static IP 192.168.0.1 and my Xbox has the default IP of 192.168.0.2 (shown in the lower IP, the upper IP now blank with DHCP off) but couldn't make a connection at all. Another thing that I don't understand is why my PC and Xbox have such wierd IPs with my cable modem on (12.255.xx.xxx). The only thing that I haven't tried is the Xbox plugged directly into the PC with no hub or cable modem but then I would need a crossover cable right? Without a cable modem providing DHCP I bet it would be the same story...this is really frustrating....the most I have been able to transfer is about 90MB  before the connection drops and it takes almost a few hours to do that....I can download off the newsgroups faster and more reliably : )

Ok, something weird is going on (ie, you're doing something wrong) if you have just a PC and XBOX plugged into a hub and you can't connect.  Doing this is exactly the same as using a crossover cable - the hub acts as the crossover.   Make sure the port on the hub your using isn't set as an uplink.  Some hubs (most netgears and many others) have a button on them to set as uplink or normal.  Some hubs have one port thats perm. set as an uplink port.  Should say somewhere on the hub.

You should have the IP on the PC setup like so:

Static IP: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
DNS: Blank

And the same on the XBOX with an IP of 192.168.0.2

Make sure you've reboot both machines after you make the ip changes.  Once both are rebooted, you should be able to ftp to 192.168.0.2 from the PC.  If you cannot connect at all, there's some sort of connection problem.

Also, you should see each port light up green (in most cases) if it's properly connected.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2003, 01:10:00 AM »

My xbox gets half-duplex...how can i get full duplex???
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Seye

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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2003, 05:33:00 AM »

prolly not much space left on the hdd. when my hdd is almost full, i get slow ftp rates.
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trob

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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2003, 05:37:00 AM »

99G left.
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2003, 08:40:00 AM »

Alright, at 1:30 a.m. last night I finally got my Xbox and PC connecting at around 450k/sec and got my C & E drive backed up. The problem with the direct connection was that I didn't put yes for Static in the EvoX ini settings. So this morning I installed my new hard drive and when I get to the point where I am trying to ftp my C & E drive on to the new hard drive using the exact same network connections as I did last night I am getting .5k/sec (yes, that is right..1/2k per sec). I have no idea what is going on...I spent a few hours this morning trying everything that I could think of...it seems that all the sudden I stick in this new hard drive (Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM WD1200JB) and now my ftp rate is useless. Do I need to do something special to the hard drive or lock it or something to increase my ftp rate....I hope I can figure something out...
Thanks

BTW...this is the HDD upgrade tutorial that I am using http://www.xbox-modc...ls/largehdd.htm
I have also tried cable select and master jumper settings but it doesn't change my ftp speed.
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trob

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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2003, 09:23:00 AM »

Again, sounds like the same issue I have.  Can you listen to your hard drive and see if it sounds like it is writing in spurts.  Enn...Enn...Enn...Enn, you know what Im talking about?  My ftp is very slow and I know it is because the hard drive is writting slow.  I did install an 80 wire ATA cable in which I had to change my hard drive from cable select to master to work.  Anyone have any experience on a slow writing hard drive issue?
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trob

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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2003, 09:31:00 AM »

I figured it may be slightly better.  Most ATA-66/100/133 drives come with an 80 pin cable.  A 40 pin cable will only transfer at ATA-33.  I know  that is the speed it will transfer at because it is on the same chain as the ATA-33 DVD but I figured it may offer a slight increase in performance.

A 80 pin cable just has an additional wires between the regular 40 wires, which is to prevent crosstalk.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2003, 10:13:00 AM »

Hmm...I wonder if my hard drive "requires" the new cable....I'm just using the one that was in the Xbox and it seems odd that the hard drive is communicating so slow. The drive I bought (WD1200JB) was listed on these forums as compatible. Maybe I will have to make a seperate post about this issue. Surely there are others besides us with slow ftp rates and it sure does seem to be hard drive related to me. I'll try the new cable and see what happens. The 80 pin cable shouldn't affect the Xbox or DVD drive in any adverse way, should it?
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trob

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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2003, 10:33:00 AM »

I'm not sure.  I think mine was working ok a day or two ago.  Then all a sudden the hard drive slowed down.  I would not waste the time switching the cable, I dont think its an issue.  Are you sure yours it a hard drive issue?  Is your hard drive a 2 or 8MB buffer?
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meImyself

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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2003, 10:47:00 AM »

My drive has 8mb cache ( http://store.bhni.ne...&products_id=35 )
I don't know for sure that it is a hard drive issue and that is what I am trying to find out. It doesn't make any sense to me that last night I was backing up my original Xbox hard drive to my PC at a rate of 450k/sec and now that I have replaced the hard drive and trying to move the data from my PC to the new drive I am getting .5k/sec transfer rates.. I saw my drive listed on this forum as compatible and I doubt the drive is damaged (it's brand new).
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trob

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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2003, 11:17:00 AM »

Mine is 8mb too.  Listen to your hard drive, does it sound kind of jumpy when your ftping?
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