Print

[Xeero]

QUOTE (Fokus @ May 19 2003, 10:46 AM)

Like I said, just need one person cough(Ubergeek) to start the whole ball rolling...its amazing how@your threads always follow NasisX threads, vise versa, if I didnt know better Ide say you two were pulling a fast one over everyone!! But for now I will go with my first guess and that is that you have really nothing better to do with your time ... Who cares, well I guess I do and so do some other people, who have replied to this thread...   SO Nasis has a differnt way of advertising than you do, so he places his chip info here and there...SOOO?! I BOUGHT HIS CHIP AND IT ROCKS!!! and 0 QUOTE Psst...the X-elixis is more expensive than the X2 Pro (never mind the X2 Lite). if you check his prices now 25 for the basic incl. the programmer and one plug in, it is cheaper than the X2 and the Matrix... For us NOOBS, its good to have choices, I looked and researched all the mods out there, and I found his to be the best solution for me, and I RECOMMEND it to others out there as well.  It is a solid design and works great!  Im sure some of you want the X2)or other mod)because you have other uses in mind for your XBOX; great then get another chip...but surely your world wont come crashing to a sudden hault and you wont be consumed by an earthquake just because Nasis put another thread into the forums!?! SO leave him alone and let him promote; I thought that is what the SCENE, or so called scene was for...a way to promote our ideas not be a bunch of fanboys...How can u respect a scene when you bash it or others for trying to add to it?

He's advertised something or other (can't understand what the hell he is talking about most of the time) as costing $60.00.  That is what I was thinking of.  My apologies if I was in error.

And no, we're not going to just "let him promote" for the sake of the scene.  Pfff.   He abuses the forums and spams unrelated threads with ads.  I have seen him inject his propaganda into Chameleon threads, X2 threads, Matrix threads...you name it.  No, I am not a fanboy, but I will not sit by and watch him run his bit in every thread in the forum.  We have warned him time and again to take his spamming down to tolerable levels, but he doesn't.

If this is about genuine and honest promotion with no tricks...explain to me what the 3rd Dimension is.  I have nasis X. this question countless times and he has never once answered it.

[Xeero]

QUOTE (Regionfree @ May 19 2003, 10:51 AM)

QUOTE Also, I'm still waiting to hear how the X-elixis is easier to solder than the X2. It uses all the same LPC points and the same d0 point. Do you tape the stripped wires to the points? You either aren't aware of what an x-elixis chip looks like and how it's installed, or you choose to look but not see. It's much thinner then any pcb, their fore minimum heat is required to solder to the lpc. The D0 isn't relevant because you need to do that with every other chip. As I said, I'm not trying to rub anybody around the wrong way, I've simply installed an X-elixis chip and posted my opinion about it. You obviously haven't so please don't try to make a fool out of me. QUOTE QUOTE (Regionfree @ May 19 2003, 09:38 AM) the X2 at the moment is the yardstick which every Xbox mod needs to measure up to, and I my self am a very big fan of, but not every one wants to drive a top of the range Mercedes.  Psst...the X-elixis is more expensive than the X2 Pro (never mind the X2 Lite). Here you mist my point or I expressed my self wrong. By yardstick, I mean that in my opinion the X2 is the best chip on the market and I am a big fan of it. I am not talking about prices here. I don't even know what an X-elixis chip is worth.

I'm still unclear how the thin PCB facilitates easier soldering.  Do you place the PCB directly over the LPC points and solder it down?  Please understand nasis X. has never explained this.  Even if this is the case, I don't agree that it is any easier than a wire install.

About the Mercedes bit....if an '84 Chevette cost the same as or more than a "top of the range Mercedes"...which would you get?

[dzv]

QUOTE (SillYcoNe @ May 19 2003, 04:06 PM)

What if all cheapmod sellers like dzv (no offense dzv, just taking an example) also start advertising everywhere in the forums huh ? There are zillions variants of cheapmods, it will be hard to extract info ....

No offence taken.  In fact, I should have used myself as an example.  You're right, I sell cheapmods, and I have not once spammed these forums promoting my business or the products I sell.  The only time I promote myself is when somebody asks a specific question like "Where can I buy mod chips in Australia?"  Aside from that and the occasional post in the Buy & Sell forum, my signature is the only method I use to promote my business.  If Nasis X could keep to a similar practice, I think there would be far fewer people flaming him.

[Regionfree]

QUOTE

What if all cheapmod sellers like dzv (no offence dzv, just taking an example) also start advertising everywhere in the forums huh ? There are zillions variants of cheapmods, it will be hard to extract info ....

Perhaps some of these so called "Cheapmods" should be given a little more recognition in these forums instead of just plugging the shit out of Xecuter all the time.
Every time a question is asked in here about "What modchip should I get" X2 is the only thing that pops up most of the time. No questions asked.
Since OzXchip came up with the brilliant idea of the Cromwell bios, which has saved modchip manufacturers a fortune by not having to supply a programmer with every chip they sell, and users having all the problems of configuring cheap programmers in order to flash their blank modchip before they can install it. I haven't seen any credit being given to OzX or their product being promoted as a way of saying thanks for the great contribution to the Xbox scene. Instead they are just another Cheapmod as far as senior members are concerned in here.

[Fokus]

[Regionfree]

QUOTE

I'm still unclear how the thin PCB facilitates easier soldering. Do you place the PCB directly over the LPC points and solder it down? Please understand nasis X. has never explained this. Even if this is the case, I don't agree that it is any easier than a wire install. About the Mercedes bit....if an '84 Chevette cost the same as or more than a "top of the range Mercedes"...which would you get?

Yes you do place the pcb over the lpc points and because of its thickness the x-elexis requires a minimum amount of solder, making it very easy to install. Believe me when I say that I've installed a lot of different types of modchips, including my own design, and that one is the easiest.

About the price comparison bit, as I said, I don't even know how much an x-elixis chip costs. I just assumed that it would be cheaper then the X2.

[Fokus]

Well to go over the pricing which no one seems to really know....

X2l- usually 40
x2l+ usually 54
x2pro usually 52

they all have 1meg

x-elixis(256k) - 25
if you want to get 1meg then buy 3 more plugins for 5 each
tada...40  the same as x2l

but like we all know none of the current bioses are over 256k...so unless you really need a fancy shmancy bios ther is no need for 1meg(even though 1 meg onboard doesn't neccessarily mean 1meg bios chip)...

and one more thing that price for the x-elixis includes shipping around the world, I got mine 3 days after I ordered it...from Europe to Tokyo in 3 days is pretty good I must say...

[Fokus]

QUOTE

Debug bioses are 512k.

woops....then Ill change what I wrote... most bioses are 256k, thanks for pointing that out.

[Ubergeek]

QUOTE (nasis x. @ May 19 2003, 01:01 PM)

So Umber, instead of flaming me, please tell people what extra things can X2 series do than the cheapmod solution by Numbnut, and exept being an expensive 1Mb Plug-In to X-elixis 3rd Dimension design..?

1mb flash rom (The first switchable 1mb mod)
hard coded cpld based lpc host
2 x 512k switching
mod disable built in
flash protect built in
full software support for bank flashing (PC and XBE)
full software support for bank switching

also
we cracked the xbox first
we designed first lpc based mod

so I guess that deserves just a little credit huh ?

and yes X2 is now old hat - X2.1 is much nicer design to end the X2 series and X3 is just around the corner

do i have to go on ?

its not your crappy adapter I flame - its your bullshit speeches and marketing hype which you post a hundred times a day in several differnt forums

you did it during the ps2 scene and were ridiculed for it - now you're doing it here

give it a rest ffs

[Regionfree]

QUOTE

Regionfree, Regarding your ideas about inequality for chips being mentioned, most homebrew chips aren't mass produced. Why should a person recommend a chip they don't know is going to still exist? Not to mention the MAJORITY of the scene uses one of the major chips, so those are going to be their recommendations. A minority never can expect equality on all fronts, that just isn't the way it works in life.

I wasn't talking about homebrew chips, but a chip like the OzxChip which is a mass produced chip that never gets a mention even tho they have helped the scene immensely.

QUOTE

Whoever tried to bring up matrix alignment as making it more difficult than soldering D0, you're talking out of your ass. If you cannot align the matrix, you sure as hell are going to fry your mobo when you solder D0.

I didn't say it was more difficult but dangerous because it's being aligned blindly. You can't see the pogo pin while you are trying to align it. To use the led indicator on the Matrix to align with, the machine has to be turned on, that's where the danger lies not only to the machine but also the user.

[XbOxGoD]

QUOTE (Regionfree @ May 19 2003, 10:22 PM)

I didn't say it was more difficult but dangerous because it's being aligned blindly. You can't see the pogo pin while you are trying to align it. To use the led indicator on the Matrix to align with, the machine has to be turned on, that's where the danger lies not only to the machine but also the user.

hello numbnuts, i've never had to allign with the power on. the 3 alligning holes around th D0 do it for me. just cos you're incompetant, doesn't mean everyone else is

[Xeero]

QUOTE (XbOxGoD @ May 19 2003, 06:47 PM)

QUOTE (Regionfree @ May 19 2003, 10:22 PM) I didn't say it was more difficult but dangerous because it's being aligned blindly. You can't see the pogo pin while you are trying to align it. To use the led indicator on the Matrix to align with, the machine has to be turned on, that's where the danger lies not only to the machine but also the user. hello numbnuts, i've never had to allign with the power on. the 3 alligning holes around th D0 do it for me. just cos you're incompetant, doesn't mean everyone else is

Let's not turn this into a flamewar...at least not moreso than it already is.  Regionfree is speaking civilly, so please try to do the same in response.

[XbOxGoD]

i apologise regionfree

[Fokus]

QUOTE

“ú–{l‚Ȃ́H³‚µ‚¯‚ê‚΁Aˆ«‚¢”Ì”„‚Í‚¢‚₾B

–l‚Í“ú–{l‚¶‚á‚È‚¢‚¯‚ǁA‚m‚`‚r‚h‚r‚̐»•i‚ªˆ«‚¢‚¶‚á‚È‚¢I@‚ ‚È‚½‚Í“ú–{l‚Å‚·‚©HŠÖŒW‚È‚¢B

And as for me joining on the 17th, so? I watched these forums since last year, and whenever he posted he got flames, like I said in my other posts...or rideculed! Really mature, OH I RESPECT YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THE SCENE! I and all the other NOOBS would respect you far more if you would just quit with the ridecule and let it be.  

If you guys are so hard core then write a bloody script that bans his posts or delete them, like it says in a lot of your info **MODERATOR**; well moderate then!

And by the way UMBER, he did give you credit on his old site, he thanked team xecuter for making a fine product(but probably because of your endless prejudice and swearing at him he deleted it), and he also thanked OZX for his fine product(he still does)...

Anyhow in the beginning I was happy to find a group where people can get together and tolerate eachother since we all have one goal in mind...but it just seems like its a bunch of kids  that wanna get that one candy in the store. GROW UP!

ps  have nbever seem more than a few posts by nasis a day...100 gimme a break

[Videogamebuyer14]

I got to test his chip once, like when I first joined this site. I had no problems with it, except for the fact, that after several times of trying to get those little flex-pins into the socket, the chip become unusable....

So to conclude, I cant say much about the XELIXIS, but please stop thanking M$, because it makes you look bad, and you should get a better advertisement sponsor....

On another note, I enjoyed my Matrix for the first day I had it, I flashed my TSOP, and I'm happy now, without any modchip....