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[okayama]

O.K. my question, is my xbox still fixable? This is what I have done so far.

Awhile  back I bought an openbox and installed it in my xbox. Every thing worked fine. I flashed the bio's and popped in a game, and every thing worked fine. Well dummy me left my xbox open while I was testing some games to see if they burned alright. Well if you've installed a mod chip then you know sometimes the dvd tray gets left kinda seesawing on the xbox case while you look for anything that may cause a problem before you put every thing back together. Well just then my buddy came over, and I wanted to show him my xbox that played backups. So I ejected the tray and popped the backup in and the tray tipped over into the case and bumped the motherboard. Well after that the xbox woulded paly anything. Kept getting the error 16 with the green/red on/off stuff. I went over every thing on the motherboard with a fine comb and multi meter. No damaged spots on the board, all solder  points were ok (checked with meter also), and I knew I didn't short any thing when the tray tipped over into the board, because all those parts on the tray are plastic.

I tried reflashing the chip, which worked every attempt. I was able to erase, flash, verify with no problems. Still the xbox wouldn't play anything (backup or original).

Now this is what I don't understand. I burnt the evolution x iso onto a cdrw, and put into the tray. Presto, my xbox boots (MSdash board still not working). It seems kinda weird to me, because the only bios I used was extender (talking about when it worked at the very begining), and I didn't mess with anything on my harddrive. I never even connected through a FTP. Well now my xbox will only boot with the disc. So I put my xbox back together, and wouldn't you know. Now it won't boot at all, no matter what I do. I made sure I taped all places that could cause any type of sort before hand. So I take it all back apart and check every thing.

To make a long story short, I never did get this xbox to boot again. I removed the chip and resoldered it again. By the way my soldering skill is fine. I don't have any problems soldering, and they always check good when I measure and check them. Well out of frustration, I sold my Sega Saturn with a bunch of assesories and games to put towards a new xbox.

So I go out and buy a new xbox and put the mod in and every thing works fine. I've had no problems with this job whatsoever. Thank God.

Do you think my other xbox still have any life left in it?

[opjose]

It sounds like either the yellow cable or the IDE connector cable are at fault.

As long as nothing on the motherboard was burned out with a short circuit you should be ok.

Remove both drives and SMELL the motherboard. Does anything look or smell burned out? (do not smell the power supply it tends to ALWAYS smell a little burned, this is ok).

If you detect no burned chip smell, change out the IDE cable and try again.

Because the Xbox is booting from the CD, it should be fine.

It almost sounds like the hard drive has had it (because of the bump crashing the head) but the Xbox is otherwise working.

In this case a mod chip and new drive will fix it.

[okayama]

I can try the cables off of my other xbox and see if that works. If its the Hard Drive like you suspect, Won't I have a problem changing Hard Drives because the mother board looks for a certain password or somthing?

Thanks for the word.

[opjose]

Mods like the X-ecutor and later support swapping the hard drive.

Once you put a new hard drive in (a new one, not one from another Xbox) you can restore the files and the Xbox will behave as usual.

To get it to work with the OEM bios again, you'll have to lock the new drive.

[okayama]

Well I'm sorry to report that changing the two cables did nothing. Still have the repair screen on boot up. It was worth a try.

I guess my next step is to swap Hard Drives.
Please nobody get upset for my asking, and tell me to do a search. I figure I'll just ask since we are on the subject. From what I can remember from reading different post, My xbox HD is no good to me anymore. Even if I wanted to use it for my PC, since I can't get it to boot and get some sort of password or something along the line of this. Is this true?

And another thing, is my MS Bio's OK. It hasn't been erased has it, or is their no way to tell this.

[opjose]

QUOTE (okayama @ Oct 21 2002, 03:10 PM)

Well I'm sorry to report that changing the two cables did nothing. Still have the repair screen on boot up. It was worth a try. I guess my next step is to swap Hard Drives. Please nobody get upset for my asking, and tell me to do a search. I figure I'll just ask since we are on the subject. From what I can remember from reading different post, My xbox HD is no good to me anymore. Even if I wanted to use it for my PC, since I can't get it to boot and get some sort of password or something along the line of this. Is this true? And another thing, is my MS Bio's OK. It hasn't been erased has it, or is their no way to tell this.

                                    Yes your Xbox hard drive is no good now if it is not working anymore.

Your best bet is to follow the 1.8.4xx tutorials using 1.8.2xxx Evolution in prepping a new drive. Install it.

Remember that it's NORMAL to get the RED/GREEN until the drive has been formatted. Just follow the tutorial.

And how on earth would you original bios NOT be ok?

[okayama]

Oh man I should have never done this. After putting my cables back into my working xbox, it will not boot to my new bio's. Only the MS Bios using eject. So what do I do, I reflashed the chip with two different bios. Non of them helped. I tried that evolution x cdrw I burned before, and guess what, the thing will boot now. Well only if you use the dvd to boot. OK I want to fix this before I'm not able to boot from the dvd anymore (which is what happened last time with my old xbox). Is there anything I can do while its still bootable. Oh and I didn't bump anything this time.

[okayama]

I get an error 13 when tring to boot the evo bios, and the MS bios boots fine. I've tried connecting with a PC using Flash FXP when using the evo iso. I can get it to connect though. I'm guessing some kind of settings got messed up on the HD. I'm not really sure cause I've never connected to my HD to look at it.
I'm using a crossover cable from my PC to my xbox. I Have to disconnect my cable modem to the PC, so I can free up the slot for my xbox. I don't think this matters, does it?
Then I type winipcfg to see my IP stuff.
I see this:
Adapter Address: ----------------
IP Address         :-----------------
Subnet Mask      :-----------------
Default Gateway:-----------------
Using Evoulution x 1.8.4---- cdrw iso, I go to network.
I copy my IP Address to xbox Static IP, changing the last number one value greater.
I copy my Default Gateway to xbox Default Gatewat.
Then I reboot the xbox with the evoul cdrw iso.
Then start Flash FXP, and choose to connect.
Under Server or Url I type in my xbox Static  IP.
I've tried connecting under Anonymous and using xbox for username/password.
I realize I'm doing this wrong. Because I can't connect. I just want to get it back to normal and leave it alone.
Any thought on how to solve the error 13. I think I'm going in the right direction.

[okayama]

Update.
Never mind about that last post.
I just found out what my problem was. Not sure why it's a problem, but it works now.
All the bio's I flashed were EvoX V2.5's
I notice I couldn't get the newer evo iso on a cdrw to work. Only the older one with Evox V2.4 iso works.
So with that in mind I flashed my bio's with a version 2.4 bio's, BAM!!! It works every time.

Well now that it works now, I'm going to leave it alone.
But one thing puzzles me. How come the V 2.5's won't work.
Thanks opjose for your help. You do way to much for us here. Keep up the good work.