Print

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 10:17 AM)

QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 04:01 PM) This means that in order to upgrade your hdd, your new hd has to be locked with the same password as the one you're trying to replace. (that password is stored on the mobo on the eeprom) He tried to change the eeprom password to the one on your 120 gig. i dont belive that is true. i think the way it works is the eeprom is used to calc a password on the fly using several things inc the hdd serial and xbox serial. you have to use liveinfo with your eeprom that should have been extracted before you started. then liveinfo calculated the password to lock the new hdd with. theroeticaly if you have the eeprom from the broken box you could get the key back from the orig hdd and relock it with the right password.

no it doesn't calculate anything on the fly. They are all set values. Sorry junior.
The hd password stays static. If the eeprom password changed according to those other variables then the xbox would not be able to unlock it upon boot genius. I realize that the you gave examples of 2 serial numbers, which in theory should not change. You may be right that the password WAS generated once by those 2 serials but it is not constantly changed. It is not ON-THE-FLY. That was bs. what I said was true and if it were not then u wouldn't have all these people who locked their hd but killed their mobo with wasted drives now.

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 11:45 AM)

good. the orignal hdd is unlocked right? and it was working correctly b4 he started to mess with it? follow this guide and that will get you back on track. you can also use live info with your eeprom to get the orignal hdd key to relock it so it works again incase of an emergency.

no, from what he said it HAS to still be locked. He's using the phoenix bios loader, which has to be loaded AFTER the original bios loads. As we all SHOULD know, the original bios HAS to unlock the hd in order to boot. It will not boot if the drive is unlocked. He changed the hd unlock password in the eeprom and now it won't unlock the original drive. That is the whole problem. He cannot change values in the eeprom back to the original ones without being able to boot the xbox.... which he cannot do with an original bios. THE ONLY WAY HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX THIS IS TO SOLDER IN A MODCHIP.

[MrSelfDestruct]

QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 06:14 PM)

no, from what he said it HAS to still be locked. He's using the phoenix bios loader, which has to be loaded AFTER the original bios loads. As we all SHOULD know, the original bios HAS to unlock the hd in order to boot. It will not boot if the drive is unlocked. He changed the hd unlock password in the eeprom and now it won't unlock the original drive. That is the whole problem. He cannot change values in the eeprom back to the original ones without being able to boot the xbox.... which he cannot do with an original bios. THE ONLY WAY HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX THIS IS TO SOLDER IN A MODCHIP.

yes,
I think your right BC. Well....I was going to be paying him $80 for the job (installing CC light, custom jewel, and HDD....but since he didnt install the HDD correctly and now I have to buy a chip, Ill probrably just end up paying him $40 for the install, and the other $40 I was going to give him will go towards that mod chip.

Well thanks for all the help guys. I REALLY, REALLY appreciate it.

[exiled350]

QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 06:10 PM)

QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 10:17 AM) QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 04:01 PM) This means that in order to upgrade your hdd, your new hd has to be locked with the same password as the one you're trying to replace. (that password is stored on the mobo on the eeprom) He tried to change the eeprom password to the one on your 120 gig. i dont belive that is true. i think the way it works is the eeprom is used to calc a password on the fly using several things inc the hdd serial and xbox serial. you have to use liveinfo with your eeprom that should have been extracted before you started. then liveinfo calculated the password to lock the new hdd with. theroeticaly if you have the eeprom from the broken box you could get the key back from the orig hdd and relock it with the right password. no it doesn't calculate anything on the fly. They are all set values. Sorry junior. The hd password stays static. If the eeprom password changed according to those other variables then the xbox would not be able to unlock it upon boot genius. I realize that the you gave examples of 2 serial numbers, which in theory should not change. You may be right that the password WAS generated once by those 2 serials but it is not constantly changed. It is not ON-THE-FLY. That was bs. what I said was true and if it were not then u wouldn't have all these people who locked their hd but killed their mobo with wasted drives now.

well if that is true then why the fuck is the password on my 40gb diferent than the one on the orignal 8gb? and i never said the the password was "changed" on-the-fly i said that it is calculated using static values in the eeprom including the hdd serial # at boot time. if you take the orignal hdd that is unlocked and put it in a computer and run liveinfo with the eeprom that was taken from that box it will give you the password to lock that drive with. once that is done then the box can unlock the hdd because it has the password that hdd wants. if the drive is locked with a incorrect password then there is no easy way of getting it back.

[RiceCake]

Here's what you do:

Your 120Gb obviosly isn't locked, I didn't see anywhere where he did. So, first prepare the hard drive somehow (I think there's a PC utility) and then take his hard drive EEPROM key and use it to sign your 120Gb. He changed your hard drive key (In EEPROM) to his (He's a moron cause he thought you could on-the-fly edit the hard drive key, but the data he saw was actually the EEPROM...).

It should work, in concept unless he fucked something else up...

I still can't believe he was stupid enough to use an On-The-Fly Edit EEPROM with an EEPROM utility and thought it had something to do with the hard drive...

He thought if you put in the hard drive the key it showed was the key the hard drive currently was locked with...

Edit: Oh just noticed - yes if you do get back the key from your original hard drive and relock it with the one he put on your Xbox, it should work.

[Sottilde]

You guys are all quite wrong, in my opinion.  First of all, ConfigMagic COULDN'T HAVE changed the EEPROM.  The Jumpers to flash the TSOP weren't soldered, so you can't change the EEPROM.  If you could, what would be the point of soldering it?

Follow my tutorial posted on this board.  You CAN fix it without a modchip or TSOP flash (not that you could, anyhow).  The tutorial is at http://forums.xbox-s...T&f=41&t=105803 if you need guidance to lock/unlock the drives.

Error 6 is a 'cannot load dash' error, not 'hacked bios'.  

Here's what you do.

You have that backup on a cd-r, no?  Use the key in hddkey.txt (without colons or 0's) to unlock the original HD (using hdunlock.exe, in dos).  Also use hddisabl with the same key. You can also unlock the 120 gigger using your friend's key.  Grab his backup folder, use liveinfo - click 'load eeprom' and point it to eeprom.bin off HIS BACKUP.  It should give you a 40-character key in the bottom half of the screen.  You can use this to unlock the 120 gigger.  If that doesn't work, try the key in hddkey.txt (from HIS backup folder).  He may have been dumb and used that.  Remember to use hddisabl after you unlock.

If you can get either of them unlocked, you are good to go.  You can lock both drives with hdlock.exe .  Use the key in YOUR hddkey.txt to lock the original HD - use the key given to you from liveinfo when loading YOUR eeprom.bin to lock the 120 gigger.

Good luck with it, PM me if you have further troubles.

Sottilde

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 12:58 PM)

QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 06:10 PM) QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 10:17 AM) QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 04:01 PM) This means that in order to upgrade your hdd, your new hd has to be locked with the same password as the one you're trying to replace. (that password is stored on the mobo on the eeprom) He tried to change the eeprom password to the one on your 120 gig. i dont belive that is true. i think the way it works is the eeprom is used to calc a password on the fly using several things inc the hdd serial and xbox serial. you have to use liveinfo with your eeprom that should have been extracted before you started. then liveinfo calculated the password to lock the new hdd with. theroeticaly if you have the eeprom from the broken box you could get the key back from the orig hdd and relock it with the right password. no it doesn't calculate anything on the fly. They are all set values. Sorry junior. The hd password stays static. If the eeprom password changed according to those other variables then the xbox would not be able to unlock it upon boot genius. I realize that the you gave examples of 2 serial numbers, which in theory should not change. You may be right that the password WAS generated once by those 2 serials but it is not constantly changed. It is not ON-THE-FLY. That was bs. what I said was true and if it were not then u wouldn't have all these people who locked their hd but killed their mobo with wasted drives now. well if that is true then why the fuck is the password on my 40gb diferent than the one on the orignal 8gb? and i never said the the password was "changed" on-the-fly i said that it is calculated using static values in the eeprom including the hdd serial # at boot time. if you take the orignal hdd that is unlocked and put it in a computer and run liveinfo with the eeprom that was taken from that box it will give you the password to lock that drive with. once that is done then the box can unlock the hdd because it has the password that hdd wants. if the drive is locked with a incorrect password then there is no easy way of getting it back.

Pop your 8 gig back in and it will unlock it allowing u to boot. This means that your eeprom didn't change. It doesn't calculate on the fly... otherwise there'd never be a problem of people flashing the wrong thing to their eeprom... it'd just DO IT ON THE FLY LOL. That doesn't happen. It's a static value and that's that.

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE (Sottilde @ Sep 21 2003, 07:31 PM)

You guys are all quite wrong, in my opinion.  First of all, ConfigMagic COULDN'T HAVE changed the EEPROM.  The Jumpers to flash the TSOP weren't soldered, so you can't change the EEPROM.  If you could, what would be the point of soldering it? Follow my tutorial posted on this board.  You CAN fix it without a modchip or TSOP flash (not that you could, anyhow).  The tutorial is at http://forums.xbox-s...T&f=41&t=105803 if you need guidance to lock/unlock the drives. Error 6 is a 'cannot load dash' error, not 'hacked bios'.   Here's what you do. You have that backup on a cd-r, no?  Use the key in hddkey.txt (without colons or 0's) to unlock the original HD (using hdunlock.exe, in dos).  Also use hddisabl with the same key. You can also unlock the 120 gigger using your friend's key.  Grab his backup folder, use liveinfo - click 'load eeprom' and point it to eeprom.bin off HIS BACKUP.  It should give you a 40-character key in the bottom half of the screen.  You can use this to unlock the 120 gigger.  If that doesn't work, try the key in hddkey.txt (from HIS backup folder).  He may have been dumb and used that.  Remember to use hddisabl after you unlock. If you can get either of them unlocked, you are good to go.  You can lock both drives with hdlock.exe .  Use the key in YOUR hddkey.txt to lock the original HD - use the key given to you from liveinfo when loading YOUR eeprom.bin to lock the 120 gigger. Good luck with it, PM me if you have further troubles. Sottilde

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you're an outright idiot. You do NOT have to solder anything to flash your eeprom. YOu have to solder to flash your TSOP. They are two completely different things. I can't believe your stupid ass made a tutorial. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE (RiceCake @ Sep 21 2003, 06:21 PM)

Here's what you do: Your 120Gb obviosly isn't locked, I didn't see anywhere where he did. So, first prepare the hard drive somehow (I think there's a PC utility) and then take his hard drive EEPROM key and use it to sign your 120Gb. He changed your hard drive key (In EEPROM) to his (He's a moron cause he thought you could on-the-fly edit the hard drive key, but the data he saw was actually the EEPROM...). It should work, in concept unless he fucked something else up... I still can't believe he was stupid enough to use an On-The-Fly Edit EEPROM with an EEPROM utility and thought it had something to do with the hard drive... He thought if you put in the hard drive the key it showed was the key the hard drive currently was locked with... Edit: Oh just noticed - yes if you do get back the key from your original hard drive and relock it with the one he put on your Xbox, it should work.

this guy doesn't know wtf he is talking about.

[Sottilde]

[MrSelfDestruct]

Well its all good guys.

I showed this thread to the guy who was doing my installs, and he was REALLY cool about it. He actually took the modchip out of his xbox, and put it in mine.

He said that the HDD is now installed, and working fine. Ill probrably be picking it up on wednesday. Thanks for all the help guys.

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE (Sottilde @ Sep 21 2003, 08:01 PM)

Okay, so it might be possible I'm wrong about that.  Still, just repeat what I said, but rather with your friend's hddkey.txt .   Yeah, you're right.  Luckily, you know what EEPROM it was set to.  There's still hope - use your friend's EEPROM to get yourself up and running.  Better yet, you could just steal his drive

ok dude.... he can't use that txt file because he can't boot his xbox to run configmagic to set it to that..... what part about that don't you understand? it DOES NOT BOOT anymore. Then only way/s it will are if he used a drive that was locked with the key he programmed the eeprom with. The only problem with that is: he used a key he thought he got from the 120 gig.... only it wasn't locked so he couldn't have. So unless he can figure that one out himself that idea is out of the picture.

The only other way is to boot a bios that does not check for the hddkey unless the drive is locked and needs unlocked. This way you can boot unlocked drives. He can't flash the tsop so his only other way is........ MODCHIP. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand?

[Sottilde]

QUOTE

ok dude.... he can't use that txt file because he can't boot his xbox to run configmagic to set it to that..... what part about that don't you understand? it DOES NOT BOOT anymore. Then only way/s it will are if he used a drive that was locked with the key he programmed the eeprom with. The only problem with that is: he used a key he thought he got from the 120 gig.... only it wasn't locked so he couldn't have. So unless he can figure that one out himself that idea is out of the picture. The only other way is to boot a bios that does not check for the hddkey unless the drive is locked and needs unlocked. This way you can boot unlocked drives. He can't flash the tsop so his only other way is........ MODCHIP. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand?

Wow, dude, are you english, or retarded?  

Remember the days BEFORE configmagic?  When we had to do stuff ourselves?  That's where you go grab hddunlock.  Oh, but if you had read my previous posts, you would've known that.  Ha.

You can unlock the drive through your computer... Think about it.


Sottilde

[exiled350]

QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 22 2003, 01:48 AM)

QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 12:58 PM) QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 06:10 PM) QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 10:17 AM) QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 04:01 PM) This means that in order to upgrade your hdd, your new hd has to be locked with the same password as the one you're trying to replace. (that password is stored on the mobo on the eeprom) He tried to change the eeprom password to the one on your 120 gig. i dont belive that is true. i think the way it works is the eeprom is used to calc a password on the fly using several things inc the hdd serial and xbox serial. you have to use liveinfo with your eeprom that should have been extracted before you started. then liveinfo calculated the password to lock the new hdd with. theroeticaly if you have the eeprom from the broken box you could get the key back from the orig hdd and relock it with the right password. no it doesn't calculate anything on the fly. They are all set values. Sorry junior. The hd password stays static. If the eeprom password changed according to those other variables then the xbox would not be able to unlock it upon boot genius. I realize that the you gave examples of 2 serial numbers, which in theory should not change. You may be right that the password WAS generated once by those 2 serials but it is not constantly changed. It is not ON-THE-FLY. That was bs. what I said was true and if it were not then u wouldn't have all these people who locked their hd but killed their mobo with wasted drives now. well if that is true then why the fuck is the password on my 40gb diferent than the one on the orignal 8gb? and i never said the the password was "changed" on-the-fly i said that it is calculated using static values in the eeprom including the hdd serial # at boot time. if you take the orignal hdd that is unlocked and put it in a computer and run liveinfo with the eeprom that was taken from that box it will give you the password to lock that drive with. once that is done then the box can unlock the hdd because it has the password that hdd wants. if the drive is locked with a incorrect password then there is no easy way of getting it back. Pop your 8 gig back in and it will unlock it allowing u to boot. This means that your eeprom didn't change. It doesn't calculate on the fly... otherwise there'd never be a problem of people flashing the wrong thing to their eeprom... it'd just DO IT ON THE FLY LOL. That doesn't happen. It's a static value and that's that.

no fucking shit the eeprom doesnt change, no one said that it did. you probaly dont even know what eeprom stands for do you? even if you were stupid the rom part should tip you off that it cant change without work. point is i have two hard drives with diffrent keys, both work. something at boot time takes the info in the eeprom and info from the hdd and generates a key, that key is what the hdd is locked with. therefore with liveinfo and the eeprom dump you can generate the correct key for the hard drive and lock it. end of story.

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 09:13 PM)

QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 22 2003, 01:48 AM) QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 12:58 PM) QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 06:10 PM) QUOTE (exiled350 @ Sep 21 2003, 10:17 AM) QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Sep 21 2003, 04:01 PM) This means that in order to upgrade your hdd, your new hd has to be locked with the same password as the one you're trying to replace. (that password is stored on the mobo on the eeprom) He tried to change the eeprom password to the one on your 120 gig. i dont belive that is true. i think the way it works is the eeprom is used to calc a password on the fly using several things inc the hdd serial and xbox serial. you have to use liveinfo with your eeprom that should have been extracted before you started. then liveinfo calculated the password to lock the new hdd with. theroeticaly if you have the eeprom from the broken box you could get the key back from the orig hdd and relock it with the right password. no it doesn't calculate anything on the fly. They are all set values. Sorry junior. The hd password stays static. If the eeprom password changed according to those other variables then the xbox would not be able to unlock it upon boot genius. I realize that the you gave examples of 2 serial numbers, which in theory should not change. You may be right that the password WAS generated once by those 2 serials but it is not constantly changed. It is not ON-THE-FLY. That was bs. what I said was true and if it were not then u wouldn't have all these people who locked their hd but killed their mobo with wasted drives now. well if that is true then why the fuck is the password on my 40gb diferent than the one on the orignal 8gb? and i never said the the password was "changed" on-the-fly i said that it is calculated using static values in the eeprom including the hdd serial # at boot time. if you take the orignal hdd that is unlocked and put it in a computer and run liveinfo with the eeprom that was taken from that box it will give you the password to lock that drive with. once that is done then the box can unlock the hdd because it has the password that hdd wants. if the drive is locked with a incorrect password then there is no easy way of getting it back. Pop your 8 gig back in and it will unlock it allowing u to boot. This means that your eeprom didn't change. It doesn't calculate on the fly... otherwise there'd never be a problem of people flashing the wrong thing to their eeprom... it'd just DO IT ON THE FLY LOL. That doesn't happen. It's a static value and that's that. no fucking shit the eeprom doesnt change, no one said that it did. you probaly dont even know what eeprom stands for do you? even if you were stupid the rom part should tip you off that it cant change without work. point is i have two hard drives with diffrent keys, both work. something at boot time takes the info in the eeprom and info from the hdd and generates a key, that key is what the hdd is locked with. therefore with liveinfo and the eeprom dump you can generate the correct key for the hard drive and lock it. end of story.

Calm down junior. First of all since we agree that electronically erasable programmable read only memory doesn't change. then we should note that it sends 1 key out at boot. It is programmed with 1 key to unlock the hard drive. So, each hard drive has to be locked with the same key that the eeprom has in order to be unlocked. That only makes sense. I don't appreciate the fact that you cursed at me. I also don't care that you have 2 hds with different keys and they both unlock.... if I saw your set up I could explain why. I have not provided any false information here. I wouldn't take a joke this far.
Don't question me any more on this stuff. I won't provide false information unless it's a joke... and this is not a joke. I don't give help unless I'm sure about it... unlike yourself.